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Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repol


From: tomas
Subject: Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:46:57 +0100
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On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:12:17PM +0300, Jean Louis wrote:
> * Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> [2021-01-24 20:51]:
> > >>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, Jean Louis wrote:
> > 
> > > Schemas are attached.
> > 
> > > I see copyright notices inside and it appears to be fully free
> > > document modifiable and distributable as long as copyrights remains.
> > 
> > Read these notices carefully. The key paragraph is this:
> > 
> >    This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to
> >    others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it
> >                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >    or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published,
> >    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >    and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any
> >    kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this section are
> >    included on all such copies and derivative works.
> > 
> > Only a special class of derivative works can be distributed freely,
> > and it sounds like some of these would fall under "fair use" anyway.
> > Certainly this isn't enough to qualify as a free software license?
> > 
> >    However, this document itself may not be modified in any way,
> >             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >    including by removing the copyright notice or references to OASIS,
> >    except as needed for the purpose of developing any document or
> >    deliverable produced by an OASIS Technical Committee (in which case
> >    the rules applicable to copyrights, as set forth in the OASIS IPR
> >    Policy, must be followed) or as required to translate it into
> >    languages other than English.
> 
> Then it is not free.
> 
> Maybe Org mode shall switch from using OASIS infested non-free
> specification to Libreoffice. I could not find those files in
> Libreoffice folders. But they could be somewhere hidden.

LibreOffice's format (ODF) /is/ an OASIS standard [1].

(I have the impression that we might be interpreting to much into
the RelaxNG immutability. After all, things like RFCs are, in their
way immutable -- you can't change RFC8555 and keep calling it by
the same name.

Perhaps it'd make sense to talk to the OASIS folks.

Cheers

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OASIS

 - t

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