Re: Motif support

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Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg02081.html
From: Po Lu
Subject: Re: Motif support
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:52:49 +0800

Please try to understand what idea someone is trying to convey, and
ask for comments if you see any lack of clarity before dishing out
judgments.

Here is what lwlib README says:
"This subdirectory contains the Lucid Widget Library (lwlib), which
provides a uniform interface to a few different X toolkits..."

This is textbook case nightmare inside a nightmare, and NOT what I am
proposing at all.



Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg02051.html
From:   Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Motif support
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:23:12 +0200

> What would the library be capable of? You say that you can replace
> all the window decorations we now implement via toolkits: menus,
> dialogs, scroll bars, title and caption bar, the tool bar. Will all
> of this be in the library, complete with support for colors and other
> stuff? If not, what would such a library prove?

Repeating my previous answer; it seems more suitable to continue here.

"Yes, I can do the listed elements (without text; I could use FreeType
but I'd rather keep build simple. And what is the caption bar? I normally
use --without-x), it would look like an Emacs frame with window area being
empty, elements interact-able.  Just rendering code with WinMain."

Addendum:

What this proves is that I am not fooling around, and it provides you
a convenient way to assess my code.  If satisfactory I can receive
the go and proceed integrating it on a test branch.

This opens a myriad of possibilities.  Off the top of my head, it
becomes almost trivial to use a minimap instead of the scrollbar.
It gives Elisp the ability to dictate how Emac looks.  For example
packages like this: https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam-ui will
start to pop up in lisp, instead of jAvAschRiPt.  It will make way
for "Office" level decorations.  Eat that, Microsoft!

I don't want to create the impression that I am trying to hastily
my slap machina-tion into Emacs.  I am fine with doing maintenance
work for some time first, until this feature is discussed again
sometime in the future.  For now it is more than enough that you take
the time to explain intricacies of Emacs platform layer to a total
stranger.  Thanks.

Relevant mail:

Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg02193.html
From: Óscar Fuentes
Subject: Re: Development Speed
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:51:41 +0100