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Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode


From: João Távora
Subject: Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 12:10:57 +0100

On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 11:51 AM Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> wrote:
>
> On 27/08/2023 09:26, João Távora wrote:
> > In my personal case I find no significant difference in working with
> > either model.  I find certain GitHub discussions and issue threads
> > just as pleasant or toxic as the things I find here.  I find email
> > reviews of patches no more complicated than those sophisticated
> > boxes.  Trivial patches to typos and stuff are indeed a little
> > harder to apply here compared with the the big green button.  But
> > then trivial patches aren't the things moving a project
> > forward anyway.
>
> Have you noticed any difference in the amount of bug reports here vs
> Github? Any difference in the volume of user participation: further
> comments, follow-ups, etc?

I still keep the GitHub repo open for those, though it's not the code
upstream anymore.  Some discussions still happen there (and I ask to move
them here if I find them particularly relevant).  A hybrid solution much
like TRAMP and Gnus and other projects.  I'd say I notice an increase
in _total_ participation if I add the Emacs bug tracker + emacs-devel +
that, but one would have to measure.  The ratio seems to be about
two GitHub posts for every Emacs tracker post.

These things are very seasonal though, and usually correlate with
announcement of new features, new versions of the LSP standard, etc.
And of course they correlate heavily with the time that _I_ have to
devote to the project.  If I am more active, so are Eglot's users.

A point worth mentioning is that the quality of bug reports (and
feature requests and support requests) is generally slightly higher
in the Emacs bug tracker, as I think people feel the responsibility
of writing something structured and consistent instead of just a screenshot
and a "look it doesn't work".  They write it usually under their own name
and email address (as opposed to a somewhat anonymous alias).  I think this
is a good thing.

So I don't know how to answer your question, given this hybrid model.
I think if I had just shut down the GitHub, we'd see more stuff pop up in
Emacs tracker, but admittedly some users would give up.  Then again, as
Po observes, some users likely find the GitHub registration a barrier to
participation, too.  I get some personal email as well.

João



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