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Re: [O] Citations, continued
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Richard Lawrence |
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Re: [O] Citations, continued |
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Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:41:06 -0800 |
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Hi Erik and all,
Erik Hetzner <address@hidden> writes:
> I am really, really glad to see people discussing citations in
> org-mode. But I have some concerns about this proposal.
>
> Before extensions are proposed to the pandoc format, I think it is
> important to understand how flexible the combination of pandoc, and
> what citeproc provides. I believe that pandoc can cover most of what
> you want.
> I also believe it would be a mistake to start from the idea of a
> pandoc-style citation syntax that deviates from pandoc. Better instead
> to start from what pandoc does now and find out what isn’t working for
> org-mode users before extending pandoc, especially in ways that are
> not compatible with pandoc.
Actually, I totally agree. For my own use, I would be completely happy
with just using the Pandoc syntax for citations in Org, without any
modifications.
The only reason I proposed anything else was that it seemed like other
people already know that they need more than the Pandoc syntax provides.
I think the main realistic cases are those where, in LaTeX, you'd use
commands like \citetitle, \citedate, or \citejournal -- citation
commands that pull in just a particular field from the reference,
because that is what the context around the citation requires. I don't
see a way to do that in the Pandoc syntax. (But am I missing
something?) Hence my proposed field-selectors extension.
Personally, I need commands like these so little that I am happy to do
without them. So maybe my proposal was a bit hasty. Could we hear from
other people about how badly they need what such commands provide?
> And if extensions are proposed, it would be best to propose them on
> the pandoc-discuss mailing list. It would be wonderful for users if
> the syntax in pandoc-markdown and org-mode could stay aligned.
Yes, I again totally agree. If people here settle on a syntax that is
close, but not quite the same as, Pandoc's, I will certainly do that.
Best,
Richard
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- Re: [O] Citations, continued, Eric S Fraga, 2015/02/03
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