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Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

From: Joost Kremers
Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:38:19 +0200
User-agent: mu4e 1.4; emacs 26.3

On Sat, Apr 18 2020, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
The question, then: Is that what you're saying; we don't need suppress-author?

I think I actually agree, though will add a topic that came up in the CSL implementation discussion for the author-in-text styles in the
past few days.

Here's a common way a citation might be integrated in a narrative text:

Doe, by contrast, found negative results (2017).

There are other constructions in with suppress-author is useful. For example, possessives:

Doe's (2017) results... or
Doe's (2017) ground braking paper...

Such use is not uncommon in my field.

Also, consider languages that require a case ending on the author name. And who knows what quirks other languages may have?

So we have the author name in-text, than some text, then the year-only citation.

The traditional way to do that in pandoc is to use the suppress-author
command at the end.

Doe, by contrast, found negative results [-@doe17].

So the piece of information I refer to above is that one of the CSL
implementers (Frank Bennett) figured out  how to make the above
example an author-in-text variant, so that you don't need
suppress-author, and the entire sentence is the citation.

He did this by adding an optional "infix" variable to the citation.

I doubt that would work in every case. Consider e.g.,
In her original (2017) study, Doe argues that...
This is arguably an edge case, but it does relate to the question of whether we need two (standard and author-in-text) or three commands
(adding the suppress-author).

I would definitely say that a way to suppress the author is necessary. In fact, I would argue that there should also be a way to cite just the author name, if only to make sure it's not misspelled or written inconsistently. (I'm a regular user of \citeauthor in BibLaTeX... ;-) But I admit that's less of a necessity.

Joost Kremers
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