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Ihor Radchenko |
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Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github (was: Communication problems and possible problems with the website) |
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Fri, 25 Feb 2022 23:14:36 +0800 |
c.buhtz@posteo.jp writes:
> Am 25.02.2022 15:18 schrieb Ihor Radchenko:
>> Org has no official GitHub page. This is partially a requirement from
>> Free Software Foundation:
>> https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.html#References
>
> I totally and absolute support that FSF requirement.
>
> In that case I would say org-mode does violate that requirement because
> there is a GitHub and a PayPal link on the landing page. And on the Worg
> page (which is "official" from the new users point of view) there is
> also a GitHub link.
> It does not matter that there is not code on GitHub and that this is
> only for sponsoring/donations. You have the link and the logo so you
> "promote" that stuff that the FSF do not want you to promote.
Fair point. Paypal requires non-free javascript. Github as well, AFAIK.
At the same time, according to GNU Coding standards:
>> A web page recommends a program in an implicit but particularly
>> strong way if it requires users to run that program in order to use
>> the page. Many pages contain Javascript code which they recommend in
>> this way. This Javascript code may be free or nonfree, but nonfree is
>> the usual case.
>>
>> If the purpose for which you would refer to the page cannot be
>> carried out without running nonfree Javascript code, then you should
>> not refer to it. Thus, if the purpose of referring to the page is for
>> people to view a video, or subscribing to a mailing list, and the
>> viewing or subscribing fail to work if the user’s browser blocks the
>> nonfree Javascript code, then don’t refer to that page.
>>
>> The extreme case is that of web sites which depend on nonfree
>> Javascript code even to see the contents of the pages. Any site
>> hosted on ‘wix.com’ has this problem, and so do some other sites.
>> Referring people to such pages to read their contents is, in effect,
>> urging them to run those nonfree programs—so please don’t refer to
>> those pages. (Such pages also break the Web, so they deserve
>> condemnation for two reasons.)
While orgmode.org is not developed in the same repository with the Org
mode itself, I have a gut feeling that we still have to follow GNU
coding standards on the website. However, WORG contains links to various
blogs, reddit, stackoverflow, and even youtube and it feels right. I
notice that I am confused. I would like to hear Bastien's opinion on the
topic.
Best,
Ihor
- Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website, (continued)
- Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/02/25
- Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website, c . buhtz, 2022/02/25
- Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github (was: Communication problems and possible problems with the website),
Ihor Radchenko <=
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github (was: Communication problems and possible problems with the website), Michael Powe, 2022/02/25
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Bastien Guerry, 2022/02/25
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Ihor Radchenko, 2022/02/26
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Bastien, 2022/02/26
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Jean Louis, 2022/02/26
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Bastien Guerry, 2022/02/27
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Neil Jerram, 2022/02/27
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Richard Stallman, 2022/02/26
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Bastien, 2022/02/27
- Re: Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github, Bradley M. Kuhn, 2022/02/27