Re: moving point over invisible and intangible text

[Luc Teirlinck]

Stefan Monnier wrote:

   Just using `invisible' is usually sufficient.

Where are the changes you made in this respect documented outside the
NEWS?  The Elisp manual does not seem to mention them, quite to the
contrary, it explicitly documents the prior behavior. From
(elisp)Invisible Text:

       Ordinarily, commands that operate on text or move point do not
    care whether the text is invisible.  The user-level line motion
    commands explicitly ignore invisible newlines if
    `line-move-ignore-invisible' is non-`nil', but only because they
    are explicitly programmed to do so.

It actually still may be true that most commands that operate on text
do not care about invisibility, but the "or move point" part is
another matter.  Also, does `line-move-ignore-invisible' still have
its documented effect after your change:

    *Non-nil means C-n and C-p ignore invisible lines.
    Outline mode sets this.

It seems to me that after your change, C-n and C-p ignore invisible
lines regardless of the value of this variable.

Sincerely,

Luc.