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Re: "Funktion" in Elisp manual


From: Lennart Borgman
Subject: Re: "Funktion" in Elisp manual
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:04:57 +0200
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Eli Zaretskii wrote:
From: "Drew Adams" <address@hidden>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:39:01 -0800

In the Emacs Lisp manual, for example node Parameter Access, I see
"Funktion" everywhere. That is not English.

Please complain to whoever built that binary (is that Lennart?),
because there's not a single instance of "Funktion" in lispref/*.texi
files as of today's CVS, and frames.texi, where the node "Parameter
Access" dwells, was last updated on February 6 (so it couldn't have
had "Funktion" around March 20, when your binary was built).

Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that Lennart lives in
the .se locale.
Could be, I am not sure. "Funktion" is Swedish. I think I also saw in Gimp that it seemed in certain cases choosed Swedish worlds among the English.

My conclusion is that there might be problems in this area with the ports of some GNU programs to w32. I think at least three different settings might be confused with each other:

1) Keyboard layout
2) Locale (numbers, currency, time)
3) Language

It seemed for example like Gimp choosed Swedish language just because I choosed Swedish locale. Could it be the same case here?

I have never reported these problems, neither here or to Gimp, because I did not have time to look into the relevant API:s (and I think it is quite frustrating that I report so many problems without having time to fix them). Perhaps this page is useful:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/winui/windowsuserinterface/userinput/keyboardinput/aboutkeyboardinput.asp

However even if there surely seem to be a problem here this might be the wrong level to look at the problem now. I wonder which program is mixing the languages and why? This is probably what should be investigated.

In the meantime I will use locale "English" to avoid this problem. I will also put a note in my instructions for building Emacs on w32.


BTW, I just looked at the node Parameter Access in the version I built on 2006-03-28 and there is "Function" spelt correctly. I think I have built this using locale "English" while I probably have built some time with "Swedish" locale.




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