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RE: several extra pixels between text and scroll bar

From: Drew Adams
Subject: RE: several extra pixels between text and scroll bar
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 07:23:45 -0700

    > emacs -Q
    > M-x fringe-mode none
    > I see, systematically, about 3 or 4 extra pixels (background) just to
    > the left of the scroll bar (which is on the right).

    Are you sure these pixels are the fringe?

No, I'm not sure. I didn't claim they were the fringe. I don't know what
they are. I turned off the fringe to see better what was going on.

    Set the fringe's background to something acutely visible, like
    "blue" or "red", and then try again.

Same result. The pixels in question are in the frame background color, not
the fringe background color. Changing the frame background color changes

    With today's CVS, the extra pixels are of a different color, so I
    think they are part of the standard decorations of the MS-Windows
    frame.  I can remove those pixels from new frames with this:

      (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(border-width . 0))

That makes no difference for me (I see no change).

    My conclusion is that these pixels are the frame's border, not the

I tried to change the internal-border-width, but Emacs hung (see separate
bug report). I tried to change the border-width, but Emacs gave an error
saying you cannot change the window (sic) border width (see separate bug

I don't know if the pixels belong to the scroll bar (most likely, since they
go away when you remove the scroll bar), the internal border, the border, or
something else. They don't seem to belong to the fringe.

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