Re: Emacs Manual: G.5 Keyboard Usage on MS-Windows

[Lennart Borgman]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:26:30 +0100
> > From: Lennart Borgman <address@hidden>
> > CC: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>,  address@hidden
> >
> > BTW I also think this page should mention the trouble with ALT-TAB
> >     
>
> M-TAB is taken by many modern window managers, so this is not an
> MS-Windows only issue anymore.  If it should be mentioned, that should
> be in the main body of the manual, not in a Windows specific appendix.
>   

Yes, that is right. Does not most users get hit by this problem? I think 
it should be mentioned in the main body then and that there should be a 
pointer to that part of the manual from where I suggest that it should 
be first.

>   
> > and 
> > the windows keys. This can't be totally bypassed without a low level 
> > keyboard (as I use to tell here ;-). That is very useful information to 
> > new users and I really want it to stand out in the documentation, not 
> > hidden somewhere in the middle of the text.
> >     
>
> I don't understand what is wrong with the current text.  It clearly
> explains the variables that affect the windows keys.  It's impossible
> to write a manual where EVERYTHING STANDS OUT, for obvious reasons.
> Let's not exaggerate every obscure issue as if it were the only
> important thing we should describe in the manual.
>   

The manual says that setting w32-pass-lwindow-to-system (and dito r)  to 
nil prevents that these keys are sent to MS Windows. I do not know how 
many times I have said this now: It does not do that! They are sent to 
MS Windows. The only way to stop that according to the documentation 
from Microsoft is to use a low level keyboard hook.

To show this just test

    emacs -Q
    M-: (setq w32-pass-lwindow-to-system nil)

and then press <lwindow> + e. That will open MS Windows Explorer.