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Re: man(7) DS and DE macros (was: [PATCH 4/5] tm.3type: describe tm_zone

From: G. Branden Robinson
Subject: Re: man(7) DS and DE macros (was: [PATCH 4/5] tm.3type: describe tm_zone, tm_gmtoff)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:39:38 -0500

Hi Alex,

At 2022-07-23T01:47:40+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> On 7/23/22 00:20, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > No indeed.  My Logitech thumb-operated trackball hates me, as does
> > the company--they don't even sell a corded version anymore.  Due to
> > some diabolical collusion with the alkaline cartel, their devices
> > refuse to operate reliably after a fresh battery has been installed
> > for more than about 71 seconds.
> Do you recommend those things?  I had contact with one when I was very
> little (like 10 yr old?) in a library, and have never seen one of
> those again.  I didn't like it at the time, but I might change my
> opinion now that I hate more and more the mouse every day.

I _did_ recommend them until recently, when one's scroll wheel failed
and the next developed this fault with the left button.  I'm now not
sure what to think of Logitech.  But I am a pretty convinced thumb-ball
user; I resented the amount of desk space a mouse demanded as soon as I
was exposed to one, and the requirement to pick up and reposition the
thing always struck me as incredibly clumsy.  But I'm also of the right
generation to have encountered trackballs _before_ mice.  If they're
good enough to direct one's anti-ballistic missile defenses, they're
good enough for my computer.

> > I'm trying the attachment again for the benefit of list readers.
> I guess you forgot it, 'cause I can't see it :/.


Third try.

> Sorry to completely drop it from the email, but I think it would be
> harder to use than tbl(1), for less functionality.

No harder than Texinfo's @multitable, which I mentioned earlier in the
thread.  Less functionality?  Yes.  But then tbl has a lot of features
you won't use for your synopses.

On the bright side, if you find the newly rewritten man page for tbl
pellucid, then that too will please me.  I found tbl un-masterable until
I rewrote the document.  I undertook many experiments to produce it.

> I'm already trying tbl(1).  Good news is I'll review your page!  I'll
> try to make it work without reading anything other than that page.

I dare say you won't find anything more comprehensive.  I looked!

> Oh, that made me remember of someone that I know, that said the day of
> a release: "It must work, I tested it on my computer". LOL!

To me, even that compares favorably to a progressive rollout that starts
someplace other than your desk.  :-/


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