Re: [Axiom-developer] [fricas-devel] Re: trademarks

[Bill Page]

The frontpage of the website

http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org

and more specifically the following linked page

http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/AboutAxiom

Refers to all three "Axiom-related" projects (plus Reduce, Maxima,
Sage although I think Waldek has already disabled support for these
"non-Axiom" systems).  It would be good to review especially these
pages to help give users the right impression.

One thing in particular on the FrontPage that stands out is:

"The Axiom Foundation is our means to promote the development and
maintenance of the open source version of Axiom through the
dispersement of donations and royalties from Axiom Gear to support
Axiom-related projects and through theAward Of Bounties."

In fact there has been no such active "foundation" for more than 5
years!  A few days ago I checked and was surprised to see that there
is a balance of about $300 US in the donation paypal account from
almost 10 years ago,  I emailed Tim Daly and suggested that he might
be best situated to use these funds. He agreed and if no one raises
any objection here I will find some way to transfer the money to him
and remove all mention of the "Axiom Foundation" from the AxiomWiki.

Bill Page.

On 22 April 2013 09:21, Eugene Surowitz <address@hidden> wrote:
> Personally, I would very much prefer a single wiki.
>
> I believe that users would have great difficulty in distinguishing
> the various forks in a systematic way; they may not have
> been the one to set up which ever variation was installed with
> their working group.
>
> Gene
>
>
> On 4/21/2013 11:00 PM, Bill Page wrote:
>>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I have no comment concerning your trademark claims but it was certainly
>> not my
>> intention to cause any confusion. I have updated the web page to which you
>> referred
>> to indicate that it uses FriCAS.
>>
>> The axiom-wiki web site is currently hosted by the FriCAS project and
>> Waldek has
>> commented in an email to the FriCAS list that he does not intend that the
>> web site be
>> exclusive to FriCAS but he does not have the resources to support more
>> than the
>> FriCAS part of the the site. Since this is a wiki the contents of the site
>> is under
>> the control of the wiki user community.  If there is continued
>> disagreement about the
>> appearance and contents of the site regarding the use of the work "axiom",
>> then the
>> likely result is that the original Axiom project will no longer be
>> represented there
>> at all. But before anyone takes such steps I think it would be better to
>> discuss it a
>> little further.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bill Page.
>>
>> On 21 April 2013 18:54, Tim Daly <address@hidden
>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>
>>     Bill,
>>
>>     You posted a note to the FriCAS mailing list about Frobenius algebras,
>>     pointing to a web page on the "Axiom Wiki".
>>
>>     Today I received an Axiom bug report...
>>         "the enumerate()$V function does not work"
>>
>>     So, I looked at the page pointed out in the bug report:
>>     http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/SandBoxObserverAsIdempotent2
>>
>>     It has the line:
>>         gens: List M := enumerate()$V
>>
>>     and CLEARLY STATES THAT THIS IS AXIOM OUTPUT.
>>
>>     Axiom does not implement enumerate from that domain.
>>
>>     So I fired up a copy of FriCAS and found that it exists there.
>>
>>     Bill, I could forgive this "mistake" by anyone else but not you.
>>     I have begged and pleaded with you to not spread confusion between
>>     Axiom and the forks. I have begged and pleaded with Waldek and Gaby.
>>
>>     Please stop. Please. I'm begging you.
>>
>>     Do the professional thing, the right thing.
>>     Use "Axiom" when you use Axiom.
>>     Use "FriCAS" when you use FriCAS.
>>     Stop using FriCAS and calling it Axiom.
>>
>>     Axiom is a trademark of the Axiom project, not of FriCAS or OpenAxiom.
>>
>>      >From the faq:
>>
>>     ===================================================================
>>     FAQ 46: Axiom Trademark information
>>     ===================================================================
>>     The name "Axiom" and the Axiom-included iconic images are common
>>     law trademarks of this project. The term of service applies to the
>>     code distributed and compiled versions of code distributed from the
>>     Axiom websites at
>>     axiom-developer.org <http://axiom-developer.org>
>>     savannah.nongnu.org/projects/axiom
>> <http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/axiom>
>>     sourceforge.net/projects/axiom <http://sourceforge.net/projects/axiom>
>>     github.com/daly/axiom <http://github.com/daly/axiom>
>>
>>
>>
>>     You are deliberately causing confusion and the result is that I
>>     get bug reports that don't apply.
>>
>>     Please either change the page to use Axiom facilities or
>>     change the page to use the name FriCAS.
>>
>>     Please.
>>
>>     Tim Daly
>>
>>
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