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Re: Survey: Projectcenter


From: stefan
Subject: Re: Survey: Projectcenter
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:56:07 +0100
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Please,

I accept that for experts there is nothing better than vi(m)/emacs, however the
thread about the two is not relevant to this list.

All of you who use the two are experts, however think of users that just want
their simple program to be written or of new users. There is simply no time to
learn so complex editors (or environments). This is why the ProjectCenter
should not follow the path of the two. Surely it can learn some features, but I
would suggest not to copy even the editing features of the two.

I think that PC, instead of having the most powerful editor in the world, it
should focus rather on aiding development. Note the the difference between
aiding the editing process and aiding the development process.

For example: http://ide.roard.com/wakka.php?wiki=Main

The development environment should be on higher level than on the level of
editing source files. Those days are over. Editor should be as simple as
possible, no fancy features, just plain text editing with small code formating
aids. What should be powerful in a modern ide are code modelling tools,
analysis and refactoring features, meta-data features or many others.

"Advanced" features of an editor in a IDE?
- syntax higlighting
- indentation
- completion (optional)
- find & replace

Optionally, the edited code should be no longer than a single method.

Why? Because one should focus on the real problem of the application, not on the
development process or on the source files.

If you want old-style editing and want to control every byte of your source
code, use old-style editors. Do not move obsolete concepts to the new
applications.

Regards,

Stefan Urbanek

Citát Wolfgang Sourdeau <Wolfgang@Contre.COM>:

> La plume légčre, vers Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 06:54:20PM -0500, heure
> d'inspiration,
> Adrian Robert écrivait en ces mots:
> > This works well.  Maybe there is also a 'vimclient' out there, I'm not 
> > sure, but someone would have to write support for it in PC...
> 
> vim is not complete enough for that... wait another 25 years of
> maturation (or use Emacs)  ;)
> 
> 
> W.
> -- 
> "An eye for an eye only makes the world blind." (Ghandi)
> 
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