Re: gnustep general impressions and possible bugs in PC, gorm, etc

[Gregory John Casamento]

Riccardo,

It would be wonderful if these bugs were reported via savannah so that they can
be properly dealt with.

--- Riccardo <multix@ngi.it> wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> during the last days I was away from home with my laptop and so I hacked 
> quite a bit on PRICE using the latest gnustep libraries and tools.
> 
> I'm happy to see a lot of improvment! And I hope to have contributed a 
> bit with the new release of PRICE that is coming along and that will be 
> released quite soon (hopefully).
> 
> Since I had only gnustep with me and no MacosX all development was done 
> on it and so I stressed and used GNUstep more and I'll share a some 
> experiences, bugs and impressions. I htink this mail will be much less 
> negative since the (in)famous "gnsutep breakage report". True is that I 
> am on linux/x86 so it is a much more "standard" platform and many bugs 
> don't show up, but many others have been fixed.
> 
> Some of these are possibly bugs, if other can confirm then I can file 
> them in the bug tracker, but I'd like some feedback. Other are maybe 
> just missing features or unexpected behaviors.
> 
> 
> ProjectCenter:
> --------------
> I am very happy to see a lot of improvment in it since the last time! It 
> crashes rarely but much more important it has now support for NSTypes 
> and some other necessay things to build PRICE and so I am now migrating 
> the project to this new release. Also I see that several of my 
> suggestions of my alst time have been implemented. Still I have some 
> notes.
> 
> - when using the "Project Editor" and leaving the other panels inside 
> the project window (not tear-off) I cannot switch back from the 
> "builder" or "launcher" back to the editor. I suppose clicking on an 
> open file shoud do that or the thirt button in the toolbar which is 
> inactive. Tearing off the build and launch panel makes the editor usable 
> when "docked"
> 
> - the text editor has bugs. For example it can happen that when deleting 
> characters with backspace at the beginning of a line, instead of 
> teleting the new-line itself, the new line remains and the characters at 
> teh end of the upper line are deleted (while the cursor remains in the 
> lower line at the leftmost char). It maybe a gnustep bug instead of PC, 
> but I cannot reporduce it in TextEdit for example.
> 
> - the editor is very "simple", a "go to line" funciton would ease 
> debugging :)
> 
> - can the project file only be called "PC.project"? renaming it to 
> another name makes the "PC" one always be created as after a conversion, 
> even if it is of the correct version.
> - a conversion overwrites alwasy the other file, so by having an old and 
> new project, opening the old one converts it and overwrites the new one. 
> A Message should warn the user so that his work is not lost.
> 
> 
> GORM:
> -----
> - I cannot update an existing class by reparsing it. If I load the 
> header of a class which has a new method added, re-loading it doesn't 
> update it in Gorm, forcing to manually add an action/outlet. IB is 
> smarter here and updates the new methos and warns for broken connections 
> if one disappears.
> - sometimes Gorm crashes when bringing it into the foreground and the 
> menu (of the application being edited) is not visible and the "NSMenu" 
> icon is clicked. I cannot easily reproduce this, but it happened me 
> several times. Apparently it  it happens more easily when two or more 
> projects are open inside Gorm

Not sure why you're seeing this.  I'll try to reproduce it.  Please submit a
bug  on savannah and also please make certain you're code is up to date.
 
> TextEdit:
> ---------
> - the "show ruler" has no effect at all
> 
> GWorkspace:
> -----------
> - is the ddbd necessary? could its use be disabled for standard 
> operation?
> - is the creation of .gwdir unavoidable? if it is useful only for some 
> specific function maybe if could be requested (and created) only when 
> that one is used
> - when moving a file to the trash, even with the keyboard shortcut, the 
> confirmaiton panel comes up without focus, this disables keyboard 
> aknwoledge by typing "enter" to confirm
> - could the "hidden files" feature be extended (or if it already can, 
> how do I do it?) to hide or show all standard unix hidden files, 
> i.e. .* ?
> - when I ampty the trash, the available disk space is not updated
> 
> 
> overall the experience is good... although I tried to convince a friend 
> to adopt GNUstep as his workspace and essentiaÚlly the main  question 
> was "but what applications do I run with it" and so we have again that 
> ever-recurring issue.
> 
> Cheers,
>       Riccardo
>       (aka grey gandalf on #GNUstep)
> 
> 
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Later, GJC

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Gregory John Casamento 
-- CEO/President Open Logic Corp. (A MD Corp.)
## Maintainer of Gorm (IB Equiv.) for GNUstep.