Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard

[Daniel Santos]

Hello,

How about  "GNUStep - integrate your thoughts" ?

I view GNUStep as a Desktop environment that enforces a consistent look 
and feel of all aplications that run on the framework. That way the user 
progressively assimilates the platform to a point that it becomes 
natural to use and more the users brain is devoted to getting the job done.
As a programming platform I can't say much because I haven't done 
anything with it. But may be something to keep in mind, is the coherence 
of the API, because this is a must in improving a developer's 
productivity and code quality.

I read on this thread about joining the GNUStep applications in a single 
site. I think  this is a good idea, because like gnome, the completness 
of the functionality offered by all the tools is a selling point.

Daniel Santos


hns@computer.org wrote:
> On 11 Nov., 12:23, Michael Thaler <michael.tha...@physik.tu-
> muenchen.de> wrote:
>   
> > On Sunday 11 November 2007, discuss-gnustep-requ...@gnu.org wrote:
> >
> >     
> > > Yes, I agree that a nice slogan can help focus ourselves and others.
> > > All the proponents of GNUstep can then use it to explain to others
> > > what GNUstep is in just a few words.
> > >       
> > Do you seriously think people are using KDE or Gnome because they have nice
> > slogans on their website? In my opinion people are using KDE and Gnome
> > because they have really nice, well integrated applications like
> > KMail/Kontact, Konqueror, Kate, k3b, Amarok, gimp, inkscape, evolution and so
> > an. In my opinion Gnustep/Etoile just lacks good applications. There is not
> > even a webbrowser. And there is absolutely no point to use Gnustep/Etoile
> > with KDE/Gnome applications. From a user point of view it is (mostly)
> > irrelevant if Gnustep is the best API out there or not. It's the applications
> > that matter.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Michael
> >     
>
> Please read my posting precisely. The purpose of the slogan is to
> address the developers who are creating excellent applications that
> matter. If they don't believe in a toolkit, they will not create
> applications. Since we are talking about how to get more developers on
> board, we must of course address them. Don't forget, GNUstep is a tool
> for developers. Users don't care how their applications are built as
> long as they are good. If we simplify development of applications -
> that is the benefit for developers.
>
> And of course nobody is actively reading and learning by heart the
> Nokia slogan. But everybody knows that their products are somehow
> better than others (but they can't tell facts). Why? Because the
> minority who knows the slogan acts accordingly and uses it as a
> starting point for their argumentation. That are the rules how
> marketing psychology works.
>
> Placing a slogan on a website but ignoring it in our daily activities
> is of course useless. This is the reason why we must discuss the
> slogan and choose one that we all can accept and believe it is good
> one. Yes - it is the same psychological mechanism as a religion. But
> we already believe in FOSS and GNUstep. Why not also believe in
> GNUstep being the best tool boost ours and others productivity?
>
> If you know what your believe in, you can convince others. If you
> don't believe yourself, you have no chance...
>
> Greetings,
> Nikolaus
>
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