Re: Discuss-gnustep Digest, Vol 87, Issue 24

[J. Jordan]

Gregory,

I am not saying GNUstep should be just OpenStep, it should be an 
evolution of OpenStep taking advantage of advancements in Open Source 
software.  Tying GNUstep to OSX means eliminating much of the 
usefulness and functionality which Apple has given up in pursuit of 
popularity.  Apple's switch from vertical to horizontal menus was not 
driven by improvement, it was driven by usability studies of Windows 
trained users and in the process eliminated very useful tear-of menus. 
 I went out and bought two MACs when I saw OSX then they started 
tearing out functions and throwing them away so I sold my MACs and 
went to a pure Linux household.  OSX has gone off on a tangent trying 
to enforce Apples vision of how a desktop should look and how a 
desktop should operate, eliminating all choice in the process. Apple 
writes software to sell hardware.  I would also be fearful of making 
GNUstep too much like OSX which is produced by one of the most 
litigation-happy corporations in history.

Glade is a development environment with which you build GTK and Gnome 
applications, Xcode is a development environment with which you build 
OSX applications.

I would say that GNUstep is a "Desktop" and that a PART of that 
desktop is a rich development environment.  WindowMaker is not a 
desktop it is a Window Manager.  I can't get past the flowers on 
Etoile to figure out what it is.

Don't think for minute that I don't appreciate your efforts, I am 
pleased with the current usability of the GNUstep environment compared 
to 5 years ago but I dream of a day when I have a purely GNUstep 
desktop with everything written in Objective-C or C where I can modify 
every application using Gorm and Project Center and do everything I 
need to do without needing to resort to things like OpenOffice or 
FireFox.

-j