Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...

[Luboš Doležel]

Hi,

if you need marketing, just make OS X, Cocoa, Foundation and Core
Foundation (and later Core Graphics, I hope) implementations in GNUstep
the main topic of the home page.

Honestly, with all the Linux/Unix desktop environments in the world, few
people outside of GNUstep care about GWorkspace or Etoilé, despite how
good they may be.

The same applies to writing GNUstep-based apps *for Linux/Unix*. No
reason to do that when you have Qt and GTK+. Think about Mono - apart
from people under de Icaza's influence, most people wouldn't choose Mono
for native development on Linux/Unix.

"Bring your OS X applications to Linux or Windows" - is the sort of
motto that catches random people's attention.

That's passive marketing. Active marketing would be pushing news like
"Our AppKit is now compatible with OS X 10.x" to sites like Phoronix.

...just my 2 cents. I certainly don't want to force any vision upon you.

Luboš


On 08/09/2013 01:28 AM, Gregory Casamento wrote:
> I just read the article in English.  I believe he removed the claim that
> GNUstep is not maintained because I don't see it in that version of the
> article.  Still, we must get our website redesigned and updated so it
> gives a better impression.
> 
> On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
> 
>     "GNUstep is abandoned" seems to be a common misconception. I read
>     this today here:
>     
> http://www.golem.de/news/darling-mac-os-x-anwendungen-unter-linux-1308-100858.html
> 
>     The author of that piece (which is mostly a translation of
>     
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/os-x-apps-run-on-linux-with-wine-like-emulator-for-mac-software/
>     ) added only this bit of "information": "Allerdings wird GNUStep
>     kaum noch aktiv gepflegt." which translates to: "however, nowadays
>     GNUstep is barely maintained". I wrote a mail to the author but
>     didn't get a response up to now.
> 
>     We definitely need to do something about our public reception.
> 
> 
>     cheers,
> 
>             Lars
> 
>     Am 08.08.2013 um 22:58 schrieb Gregory Casamento:
> 
>     > The comment is typical of those I see on a daily basis on twitter...
>     >
>     > He began by saying the site makes the project look abandoned.  I
>     asked what he thought could be improved... his responses are below.
>     > ---
>     > Keith Smiley @bheron I’d love to help with this if there’s
>     something that needs it.
>     >
>     > @bheron I also think a nice getting started would help. Jumping
>     into wiki pages can be a bit daunting. Just a 0 to hello world.
>     >
>     > @bheron I’m glad you’re still working hard. I think the website
>     needs an update. It just looks a little dated the screens as well
>     > ---
>     > One of our biggest issues is that people just don't know what
>     we're all about or that we're still around.
>     >
>     > We have the best framework out there, but if we don't get the word
>     out people just won't use it.