Re: Is GNUstep Examples maintained?

[Sebastian Reitenbach]

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 22:05 CEST, David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> 
wrote: 
 
> On 20 Aug 2013, at 20:30, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola@libero.it> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > David Chisnall wrote:
> >> We currently publish this:
> >> 
> >> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/examples.html
> >> 
> >> But it doesn't seem to build anymore.  There's no link to the repository 
> >> in the web page, and I can't find it in svn.  Is anyone planning or 
> >> updating it, or should I just delete the FreeBSD port of it?
> >> 
> > wait, inside the example there is Ink :) GFractal and GPuzzle work for me 
> > too, I remember updating the latter, IIRC. GSTest compiled and worked no 
> > longer than 2 weeks ago.
> > 
> > I'll try, but if you can give what's wrong at your place we can keep them 
> > from bittrotting (which would be good, even if you don't want the FreeBSD 
> > package, potential user want working examples, broken ones are of no good).
> 
> The errors I was hitting were in CalcBrain.m, which is doing the pre-NeXT 
> thing of declaring instance variables inside @implementation contexts, which 
> is now allowed in the non-fragile ABI for declaring private ivars and so 
> results in an error with things being declared twice.

This CalcBrain.m problem is fixed in SVN, the rest is compiling fine.

> 
> I think some of this stuff may have been fixed in svn, but there's been no 
> release.  This is true of a great many things that we are shipping, in fact.  
> Most of the things on the downloads page on the GNUstep web site don't 
> actually build with the latest GNUstep release, which is quite embarrassing.

Yeah, that's also stopped me in the past to upgrade the GNUstep ports [1] in 
OpenBSD to use clang/libobjc2 with non-fragile-abi. 
Over the time, most of the the GNUstep ports in the ports tree build with the 
new setup. The only remaining problems I have:
 * gnustep-examples (fixed in svn, but no new release)
 * matharray (from gnustep-non-fsf, non-fragile-abi problems, fixed in svn, but 
no new release)
 * PDFKit (GAP, but this is marked as broken since xpdf upgrade to 2.03 
anyways, so no real issue for me, but we're just discussing it with Riccardo 
and Richard Stonehouse)
 * www/sope [2] , www/sogo [3] (using lots of old and deprecated functions, see 
my bug reports, this is not fixed yet)

To upgrade the OpenBSD ports tree to use clang/libobjc2 with non-fragile-abi, I 
could mark gnustep-examples and matharray as broken, but I don't want to do 
that with www/sope and www/sogo. There are too many people out there having 
SOGo instances deployed in production on OpenBSD, I don't want to make them 
angry ;)

>From the sogo mailing list I know that there are some people working on a 
>FreeBSD port for it. When you change to use clang/libobjc2 they will run into 
>the same trouble like me on OpenBSD.
I can look up their e-mail addresses from the m/l if you want to get in contact 
with them, if you aren't already.
Note that the patches to sope/sogo bug reports I had attached there, break 
heavily. I have a better patch for sogo, but not yet uploaded, but sope is more 
complicated to me.


cheers,
Sebastian

[1] http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/x11/gnustep/
[2] http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=2234
[3] http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=2235
> 
> David
> 
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> 
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