Re: Microsoft is working on iOS SDK for Windows 10 apps

[Alessandro Sangiuliano]

    The interesting thing, in addition that MS made objective-c and a
    compatible framework with the Apple one, is to see how the swift
    situation will evolve.
    
    MS done this "port", because they don't have a large set of Apps in
    their store for mobile Windows, and the developers focusing Windows
    for phones were very few respect Android and iOS. This is a strategy
    to make easier the port of Apps from iOs to  Windows (phone or how
    they call it), but I think this was quite obvious to all here.
    
    If this will have success, and windows (phone) will start to take is
    piece of the cake in the smartphone market, why a developer should
    choice swift respet objective-c? Swift for now runs only on Apple,
    obj-c runs on linux, *bsd, hurd and now "natively" (without mingw or
    other stuffs) also on Windows (phone and PCs, for what I saw from
    the video), and it is integrated in Visual Studio too.
    
    Will be Swift just a fan boys language? Who now if now the chaces to
    be released as open source are increased? And how much it will be
    usefull now, if it will be released?
     At last, Swift what has more than obj-c? They claim it is faster
    than obj-c. The only reason I was waiting for swift, was the hope to
    see it with a garbage collector instead of ARC, this not happened,
    and will not happen, I think, so for me became a useless language.
    
    Alex.

Il 02/05/2015 19:38, Gregory Casamento ha scritto:

What I find most frustrating is the fact that we thought about doing this a long time ago. It's a lesson to me, at least, to act on my instincts.

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 13:25 Fred Kiefer <fredkiefer@gmx.de> wrote:

Great to see that you are taking this story with such good spirit. This is something I like about GNUstep.

If you want to get more details from Microsoft here is a video

http://channel9.msdn.com/events/Build/2015/3-610

You will have to skip to minute 33 for the Objective C demo, before that it is just some nice compiler changes.

Fred

On the road

Am 01.05.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Ivan Vučica <ivan@vucica.net>:

That would be very surprising; why would they do that?

:-)

sent from phone

On May 1, 2015 09:26, "David Chisnall" <theraven@sucs.org> wrote:

On 30 Apr 2015, at 23:43, Fred Kiefer <fredkiefer@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> On the other hand, I find it very frustrating to see how fast they implemented something that we have  been working on for years.

I am led to believe that Microsoft employs some full-time developers.

David

-- Sent from my IBM 1620


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