Re: [DotGNU]Propoganda starts at home...

[TonStanco]

>  Yeah the lack of consultation, considering that we did not asked our 
opinion
>  on the mailing list.

Yes, people are not completely familiar with how we work at FD. I was not 
involved in the drafting of the PR at all and only heard about it on the 
plane back from Paris, where I hooked up with David. David had a little 
input, but is still trying to understand the FD way himself.

Still on balance it was good enough. DotGNU will not succeed or fail on the 
wording of this press release. Anyway, we will clarify things with our own 
today.

> I also felt personally isolated from this process, they only asked David 
and 
> Tony, which have entered some what late on this discussion. At least they 
could
> of asked Norbert or me about it.

We all felt a little bit like spectators in this rather than participants. 

>  > I think that it is really unfortunate that the press release
>  > does not discuss why we consider Microsoft's actions to be a
>  > threat for Free Software and Freedom in general, and why the
>  > DotGNU and Mono projects are countermeasures against this threat.
>  > - That is the message that needs to be sent out in order to
>  > attract the developers who are needed for our huge project.
>  > 
>  > I am not surprised that this press release has unfortunately
>  > resulted in the kind of press that shows us as in some way
>  > endorsing Microsoft's initiative.  I'm really upset about this
>  > outcome.
>  
> Personally I agree, it has made us look more like imitators, and as such we 
> do not need that kind of press. Also the way the press has been pointing to 
our 
> soluttion as something like nothing more than a plain .NET clone is not 
what we
> need.

Yes. But some press is better than no press and we will correct the 
impressions. 

You need to remember that people naturally think in a centralized, 
proprietary paradigm, because that is what they know, so they think everyone 
is trying to centralize the information like MS. 

For us, we naturally think in terms of decentralization in structure and 
form, so we will be disappointed many times in how people we write about us. 
They will not fully understand for some time until we show them it is a 
better way.