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Re: [OFFTOPIC] Apple and GPL (was: Emacs CLA requirement)
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Alexandre Garreau |
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] Apple and GPL (was: Emacs CLA requirement) |
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Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:00:55 +0200 |
Le mercredi 16 juin 2021, 15:25:14 CEST Stefan Monnier a écrit :
> > Yes, that is what I mean. They just stopped updating e.g. bash, so
> > they
> > didn't have to use the GPLv3 license. Why, I too never understood.
>
> IIUC it's fundamentally because poor little Steve Jobs was traumatized
> when he was forced by the GPL to release the source code modifications
> to GCC that added support for Objective C.
>
> Exactly how that early-life trauma with GPL<3 turned into a paranoia
> about GPL≥3 is still somewhat unclear, tho.
that makes me think also: copyright assignment also would give the right
to emit exception to lessen copyleft in certain cases if it was ever
needed to make people more free. For instance Apple devices usually makes
tivoization the unavoidable default, so you can’t possibly legally install
emacs, gcc and glibc on them.
So the current change will make sure that gcc and glibc won’t ever be able
to use their software on certain devices which don’t respect user freedom
enough.
On one side it is positive that they cannot be used to market freedom-
deprieving devices, on the other side if someone already owns a such
device and cannot get another one, a exceptional allowance to get a freeer
software including a full-featured copylefted programming language would
give them more freedom. This is a tradeoff FSF never made, but now never
will be able to do anyway.
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, (continued)
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Philip Kaludercic, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Andrei Kuznetsov, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Philip Kaludercic, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, tomas, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Philip Kaludercic, 2021/06/16
- [OFFTOPIC] Apple and GPL (was: Emacs CLA requirement), Stefan Monnier, 2021/06/16
- [OFFTOPIC] Apple and GPL (was: Emacs CLA requirement), Christopher Dimech, 2021/06/16
- Re: [OFFTOPIC] Apple and GPL (was: Emacs CLA requirement), Eli Zaretskii, 2021/06/16
- Re: [OFFTOPIC] Apple and GPL (was: Emacs CLA requirement), tomas, 2021/06/16
- Re: [OFFTOPIC] Apple and GPL (was: Emacs CLA requirement),
Alexandre Garreau <=
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Andrei Kuznetsov, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Philip Kaludercic, 2021/06/16
- Emacs CLA requirement, Christopher Dimech, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Adam Tack, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Stefan Monnier, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Stefan Monnier, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Adam Tack, 2021/06/16
- Re: Emacs CLA requirement, Stefan Monnier, 2021/06/16
- NonGNU ELPA work (Was: Emacs CLA requirement), Philip Kaludercic, 2021/06/16
- Re: NonGNU ELPA work, Stefan Monnier, 2021/06/16