Re: Brand new clojure support in Emacs ;-)

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2023 22:45:36 +0200
> From: "Bozhidar Batsov" <bozhidar@batsov.dev>
> Cc: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
>  "Alan Mackenzie" <acm@muc.de>, "Danny Freeman" <danny@dfreeman.email>,
>  "Dmitry Gutov" <dmitry@gutov.dev>, "Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>,
>  "Emacs Devel" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> 
>  And even if his behavior were problematic, calling your opponent a
>  "jerk" is far from being kind.  Discussions are a two-way street, and
>  if you are opposed to unkind words, you should try very hard not to
>  use them yourself.
> 
> I take matters of comm etiquette quite seriously, but when someone starts to 
> take personal swipes
> at me that's where I draw the line. Hostile behavior should not go unnoticed 
> and I think you, as one of
> the leaders of the project should try to ensure we have a non-hostile 
> environment.

Hostile behavior should not go unnoticed, but the response should not
be hostile, otherwise we lose the moral argument of calling the others
not to be hostile.

> emacs-devel is
> kind of infamous for the harsh language that's tolerated here and if we want 
> to have a bit more
> inclusive community some efforts should be invested in curbing hostilities. 

Harsh language is not tolerated here, it's a myth.

> It's really hard to have a meaningful conversation when someone is making 
> weird (and wrong) claims
> about me, my motives and so on.

Yes, it could be hard at times.  But still, the responses should not
be hostile, even when you protest the perceived hostility of the other parties.