Re: [External] : Re: Adding refactoring capabilities to Emacs

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>,  drew.adams@oracle.com,
>   dmitry@gutov.dev,  joaotavora@gmail.com,  philipk@posteo.net,
>   monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 14:30:30 +0200
> 
> >>>>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:36:22 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:
> 
>     >> From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
>     >> Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, joaotavora@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net,
>     >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>     >> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 11:22:20 -0400
>     >> 
>     >> Occur and grep buffers are by default read-only (and there is a
>     >> regression in that too
> 
>     Eli> It is only a "regression" if you still have your muscle memory from 
> 20
>     Eli> years ago, since it's when we started making the compilation-mode
>     Eli> buffers read-opnly.
> 
> "C-x C-q" in an "occur" buffer still leaves some non-useful key
> bindings around, like for "DEL". To usefully edit an "occur" buffer
> you need to run `occur-edit-mode', bound to "e" by default. We could
> fix that wart if we wanted to.

I know that, right?  My point was that if the mode doesn't give you a
special-purpose editing sub-mode (like Occur and Dired, etc.), then
"C-x C-q" should do.