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RE: Turning off tooltip-mode wipes out echo-area message
From: |
Drew Adams |
Subject: |
RE: Turning off tooltip-mode wipes out echo-area message |
Date: |
Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:28:30 -0700 |
> When you reported this the first time, I looked into it
> and published my findings:
>
> AFAIK, I've never reported this before. I just discovered it today.
Sorry, I indeed spoke too fast. You reported a different pfoblem
with disabling tooltips, one that involved a menu and code that
displayed "TTTTT" in the echo area.
Reading again your report, I have no idea what could cause it.
I just reread the other thread (subject "tooltip-mode disabled prevents
messagesin minibuffer"), and I think you were right the first time - I think
this is the same problem or something very similar (same cause?).
I'm surprised I forgot about my previous report (just a few weeks ago! -
CRS). I spent a lot of time yesterday discovering that tootip-mode was the
culprit. Had I remembered the other bug thread, I might have saved myself
some time.
> the echo area is cleared (IIRC, because some of the menu
> items don't have help echo).
>
> That's unacceptable.
I guess you should fire me, then.
Hehe. Touche! In any case, _you_ are not unacceptable, Eli ;-).
Clearing the echo area randomly (or seemingly so), and thus losing
application messages, is unacceptable for a good UI. And, possibly fixing
some help-echo problem for menus is an insufficient reason for ending up
with such behavior generally.
I see, from the other thread, BTW, that this bug on Windows is not
necessarily by design. Nick said this about the behavior on GNU/Linux:
> > What do you see on GNU/Linux? Do you see the TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
> > message in the echo area?
>
> Yes. It works as expected
He seems to be confirming that the behavior on GNU/Linux is correct and the
behavior on Windows (losing messages) is a bug.
Re: Turning off tooltip-mode wipes out echo-area message, Richard Stallman, 2006/08/14