Re: Display problems with `before-string' in overlay

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:08:06 +0200
> > From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <address@hidden>
> > CC:  address@hidden,  address@hidden
> >
> > > > > But let me turn the table around, Lennart, and ask you: what arguments
> > > > > will actually convince _you_ to change your mind on this?  Following
> > > > > Karl Popper, if your answer is ``nothing will change my mind'', then
> > > > > this is a religious type of argument that we should just stop, because
> > > > > it has no hope of any agreement whatsoever.
> > > > That is a good question.
> > > Which you didn't answer, sigh...
> >
> > In what sense did I not answer it?
>
> In the sense that I still do not know what would convince you to
> change your mind.  For example, if I would to argue with someone which
> of two apples to buy, telling me that one is 10 times cheaper than the
> other might make me change my mind.

I am not the easiest one to convince, but it is in no way impossible.

I tried to point out the answer. What is needed is not very different 
from when you meet other people. You must try to meet me where I am.

And I failed for similar reasons to make it possible to convince you.

You were arguing from a managerial standpoint. I tried to mix this 
standpoint with estimates of some details in the problem. If you wanted 
to convince me I then I think you should have to follow me a bit on that 
road.

It would be nice if you commented on this because I honestly fail to 
understand why you did not do that. I can of course think of a lot of 
reasons, lack of time for example. Or that you did not find my arguments 
valuable. Whichever it was I think it would have been easier to get a 
bit longer on the road to convincing me if you explained your reasons 
for the turn you took.

I tried in the prev-previous mail to do explain something similar from 
my point of view, but I think I missed something there since you thought 
I did not answer you.


I have a feeling that the difficulties to meet is for some reason mainly 
a lack of trust. That may be personal for me, I do not know. It is easy 
for me to say that I trust your experience and appreciate your concerns, 
but that I think differently. But it is not easy to get the message 
through to you.

Maybe because of the media and the way we communicate. Maybe because we 
actually have different styles of thinking as I understand it.