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Today's Topics:
1. Embedded media files (Dylan Knight Rogers)
2. Re: Embedded media files (Karl Goetz)
3. Official gNewSense forums? (Danijel Orsolic)
4. Re: Official gNewSense forums? (MJ Ray)
5. Re: GNASH? (Brian Brazil)
6. Re: Official gNewSense forums? (Brian Brazil)
7. Re: ppc version (Brian Brazil)
8. Re: Official gNewSense forums? (Dave Crossland)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:56:00 -0600
From: "Dylan Knight Rogers" <address@hidden>
Subject: [gNewSense-users] Embedded media files
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Hi all,
I used to use mplayer and mozilla-mplayer back when i used ubuntu.
what can i do to supplement not having these packages?
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Dylan Knight Rogers
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:26:14 +1030
From: Karl Goetz <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Embedded media files
To: address@hidden
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Dylan Knight Rogers wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I used to use mplayer and mozilla-mplayer back when i used ubuntu.
> what can i do to supplement not having these packages?
>
what do you use it /for/?
try totem.
kk
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Karl Goetz
The buck stops there -> $
Australian Ubuntu users team - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:23:34 +0100
From: Danijel Orsolic <address@hidden>
Subject: [gNewSense-users] Official gNewSense forums?
To: address@hidden
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Hello everyone
First of all congratulations on the 1.0 release. Even though it may need some
more polish at this point I think that the mere idea of having the power of
Ubuntu without freedom compromising software stands to great potential,
especially now that it has full FSF support. I hope and anticipate it will
become quite popular (even though I know that is not the sole purpose).
Because of this I also think that it would be a good idea to have official
gNewSense forums where people can help each other with any issues they have
when running gNewSense. Are there any such forums planned?
If not I would like to contribute.
I have a couple ideas of which one might work, depending on what you think. The
first is to host an official forum for gNewSense at an existing Free Software
support site that I run at http://www.nuxified.org which is a site part of the
Libervis Network where we fully support Free Software and have a policy against
accepting any advertising that promotes nonfree software (just to illustrate
our level of commitment towards promoting Free Software).
The forum would have its own subdomain, even though it would be part of the
site itself. All current registered members there would be able to post in a
gNewSense forum immediately.
Another, slightly more expensive option that I am considering is opening a
completely new forum site dedicated to gNewSense support, under a new domain
name (for example gnewsense-forums.org). It would be akin to ubuntuforums.org
except that it wouldn't run proprietary vBulletin forum software (I'm thinking
Drupal as on Nuxified or phpbb) and of course would be dedicated to gNewSense,
not Ubuntu.
For the second option I am willing to buy initial hosting and domain name
myself as well as serve as an administrator. We can then add some moderators to
help out as the forum grows.
Let me know what you think.
Best regards
Danijel Orsolic
http://network.libervis.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:05:56 +0000
From: MJ Ray <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Official gNewSense forums?
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Danijel Orsolic <address@hidden>
> Because of this I also think that it would be a good idea to have
> official gNewSense forums where people can help each other with any
> issues they have when running gNewSense. Are there any such forums
> planned?
I fear that forums may divide the community up too soon. Is it possible
to do something like gmane.org and link it to the mailing list, but
categorise it?
Thanks for reading,
--
MJ Ray - see/vidu http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Somerset, England. Work/Laborejo: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/
IRC/Jabber/SIP: on request/peteble
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:43:17 +0000
From: "Brian Brazil" <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] GNASH?
To: "Benj. Mako Hill" <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
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On 11/3/06, Benj. Mako Hill <address@hidden> wrote:
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> <quote who="Brian Brazil" date="Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:42:10PM +0000">
> > To make it clear, to put a package officially into gNewSense that is not
> in
> > Ubuntu is not going to be easy. The less changes we have to make the
> better.
>
> That really doesn't need to be that hard either, especially if the
> software is not in Ubuntu or Debian already. A seperate repository
I don't mean hard to do. I mean hard to get past me. Our goal is to keep as
close to
Ubuntu as we can, at least until we have developers who are willing to help
in the long
term. Then we can consider going further.
> > If any package does want to get included, attention MUST be given to
> > how it will be supported in the future - requiring at a minimum a
> > fully automated process.
>
> The automation of this process is precisely the problem that soyuz
> (part of Launchpad) is designed to deal with. The short version of the
> story is that it's a *very* hard problem to automate this although on
> a package by package basis, bzr will probably do most of the trick.
There will be very few (if any) packages added that aren't in Ubuntu, so
this would be done on a package by package basis.
Currently the only ones I would consider would be gnash and iceweasel.
Brian
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:51:05 +0000
From: "Brian Brazil" <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Official gNewSense forums?
To: "MJ Ray" <address@hidden>
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On 11/4/06, MJ Ray <address@hidden> wrote:
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> Danijel Orsolic <address@hidden>
> > Because of this I also think that it would be a good idea to have
> > official gNewSense forums where people can help each other with any
> > issues they have when running gNewSense. Are there any such forums
> > planned?
>
> I fear that forums may divide the community up too soon. Is it possible
> to do something like gmane.org and link it to the mailing list, but
> categorise it?
>
gmane sounds good - anyone have experiance with setting it up?
As MJ has pointed out, dividing up the community is bad, which is
why we currently only have one mailing list and one IRC channel.
We'll create more as needed.
Paul and I also made a decision some time ago that we wouldn't have forums,
as we consider mailing lists better. Having to go to N forums to help people
with
various project doesn't scale, but having it all land in my inbox does.
Brian
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:58:51 +0000
From: "Brian Brazil" <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] ppc version
To: "Mariot Chauvin" <address@hidden>
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On 11/3/06, Mariot Chauvin <address@hidden> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Does a ppc version of gNewSense based on ppc ubuntu dapper version is
> planned ?
We currently don't have one, but it is intended that Builder support
multiple architectures. We currently have x86_64 hardware available to us.
Once one arch is done, doing others should be trivial.
My current idea is that you'd use a process similar to the current Builder,
but when doing a do-update pull sources from the gNewSense repositries
rather than Ubuntu and then dpkg-buildpackage. Then add in whatever extra is
required to build the livecd.
Brian
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:04:23 +0000
From: "Dave Crossland" <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Official gNewSense forums?
To: "Brian Brazil" <address@hidden>
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On 04/11/06, Brian Brazil <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Paul and I also made a decision some time ago that we wouldn't have forums,
> as we consider mailing lists better. Having to go to N forums to help people
> with various project doesn't scale, but having it all land in my inbox does.
I totally agree, because for me I already have a good habit of
checking email regularly, but a less powerful habit of checking web
fora.
However, this suits me because I am a heavy email user and am very
savvy with email. For most people, there is too steep a learning curve
in scaling email from individualised personal use to community
discusssion.
For them, there is a conceptual advantage of a web forum; Is that it
is easy for non-developer users of a GNU+Linux system to pop into a
website, search the posts easily and find existing community solutions
to their problem.
If they want to become more than totally passive - and many dont - it
is also more straightforward for them to sign up quickly, post a
question, bookmark that thread, and check only that thread for an
answer, and then not spend any attention on the forum until they need
to use it again.
So GMane or whatever web based view of mailing lists should aim to
accomodate this kind of use, imo :-)
--
Regards,
Dave
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