Re: Beta-test new site design, was: Status of the "new" GNUstep website?

[MJ Ray]

On 2004-01-11 00:52:28 +0000 Scott Stevenson <address@hidden> wrote:

> I don't follow. Why is it evil?

It's a list (well, two at the moment) and not tabulated information. 
It should be marked as a list rather than a table.

> > It doesn't look right in some common browsers and is a bit nasty for 
> > unusual 
> > browsers (like talking ones).
> Which common browsers is it causing problems for?

Netscape, at least, which seems surprisingly common among our users.

> Tables can cause problems for sightless browsers if used improperly, 
> but I 
> don't believe that is the case here, since the order of the "spoken" 
> elements 
> is consistent. The problems come into play with multiple nested 
> tables and 
> such.

Some settings replace tables with their summaries and ask whether to 
expand them.

> Maybe we can compromise here and have a single row, two-cell table 
> with one 
> list per cell?

I don't think that's better than fixing the CSS positioning.

> >     I need to figure out what a good way to center the right-hand 
> > column is. 
> > Any suggestions?
> I don't think we want it centered as much as attached to the left 
> column, 
> correct?

I'm not sure. I think I can do that without too much pain, by making 
both ul's floatleft and fixing the margin-left for ul. Maybe I should 
use one ul and put two floatleft divs inside it? I've tried it in the 
CVS copy and will update the test site at some point.

> > It's not that huge to me in Firebird.
> I think this gets back to the issue that the "point" unit of 
> measurement 
> creates. There's a spread in the base size.

I think 1 point should be roughly 1/72in on all displays. If it isn't, 
the display is misconfigured.

> > Yes. It works fine for me in Firebird. Maybe your screen or browser 
> > dpi is 
> > wrong?
> Not sure what "wrong" is.  :)

Ask your browser to display a 72pt pipe symbol (<p style="font-size: 
72pt">|</p>). Get a ruler and measure it. Is it 1 inch long? If not, 
that's wrong. Mozilla tries to figure out what the dpi is, but it can 
be told too. I'm not sure about other browsers.

> > > 2. I think there's a bit too much spacing between elements in the 
> > > sidebar. 
> > > Maybe take line-height down a bit more?
> > Will do. What would you suggest?
> Two points or so?

Done in CVS.

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