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Re: New logo and website design proposal
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Ludovic Courtès |
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Re: New logo and website design proposal |
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Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:40:20 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) |
Hello!
Luis Felipe López Acevedo <address@hidden> skribis:
> As part of the Guile project I imagine, I'd like to propose these
> visual modifications for the logo and the website.
>
> Logo
> https://multimedialib.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/guile-logo-proposal-2015-06-16.png
I like it!
> Website mockup (some rough sketches here)
> https://multimedialib.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/website-mockup-2015-09-15.png
>
> My intention with this proposal is, hopefully, to modernize the image
> of the project a bit and make it more attractive to potential users.
This is amazing! I really like the web site mockup. The drawings are
just awesome.
Christopher Allan Webber <address@hidden> skribis:
> First of all, I think this looks *amazing*! Will it keep these kind of
> nice black and white drawings, or will the final result have a more
> refined look? Either way, I like the childrens' book type
> illustrations. (My request would be that if they do become colored, the
> two children-programmers whose bodies are somewhat visible have
> different skin tones for diversity reasons. I think they look gender
> ambiguous enough because of the suits.) Honestly I think the rough
> black and white versions look very nice as-is though, and I am not sure
> how to color them without a kind of watercolor look. Very "Where the
> Wild Things Are" meets robots. A good combination!
I would leave them as is; I think it’s fine without colors.
> Second, a friend of mine pointed out a couple of things:
>
> - The "Guile is an extension language platform" section gives the
> impression maybe overly that it's an extension language far and above
> being an independent language. Guile is certainly optimized for
> this, especially for legacy reasons, but more and more Guile
> applications seem to be written entirely within Guile itself.
+1
> Maybe the text could be something like:
>
> "Guile contains a neat and highly optimized virtual machine.
Or rather “… an efficient compiler and virtual machine.”
> It can be used out of the box to write programs in Scheme, or
> can easily be integrated with C and C++ programs.
>
> Guile is the GNU Ubiquitous Intelligent Language for Extensions,
> and the official extension language of the GNU project."
+1
> - It may be nice to show code examples. Lisp is often interpreted as
> being hard to read; I have found that a nice theme and
> rainbow-parentheses has reduced that fear for some users. Here's
> some examples of screenshots I have taken of my own emacs with
> various lisps... none of them are perfect, and this isn't scheme
> code, but to get the general idea:
>
> http://dustycloud.org/tmp/emacs_lisp_setup.png
> ^- Probably could do without the highlighting?
>
> http://dustycloud.org/tmp/emacs-rainbow-all-the-things.png
> ^- Probably could do without the rainbow-delimeters?
>
> http://dustycloud.org/tmp/emacs_wombat.png
> ^- Something different, but also a nice theme
>
> I'm not 100% confident on this; showing "real code" might actually
> clutter things or make things more intimidating. The present
> design I think is fairly intimidation-free.
Maybe these could go under “Getting Started”?
I like what racket-lang.org does with the cycling code examples. An
option would be to still their idea (and code? ;-)).
Other comments:
• In the “Extend applications” part, I would remove Lua, move ECMA to
the back on the drawing, and add Scheme to the front; we might even
replace ECMA with C. In general, we don’t want to emphasize
multiple-language support, so I would also remove it from the
heading.
• The “Applications” part is a good idea. Unfortunately, we cannot
(yet!) have LilyPond there (its port to Guile 2.0 is incomplete) and
TeXmacs (not sure what the status is.)
Perhaps Guile-Charting, Guile-Present, or Guile-OpenGL would make
for a nice picture, or maybe Guile-SSH for a black terminal-like
geeky image?
• I noticed with the Guix web site that “Help” is a bit confusing
since it’s about getting help and not about helping out
(contributing).
• I think we can remove “Blog”, but a news section would be welcome,
possibly with a preview on the main page as you did for Guix?
Thanks a lot!
Ludo’.