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Re: Idea: a meta language for (language) build systems - npm, Racket, Ru


From: Leo Prikler
Subject: Re: Idea: a meta language for (language) build systems - npm, Racket, Rust cargo
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 13:03:35 +0200
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Am Dienstag, den 01.06.2021, 12:52 +0200 schrieb Adriano Peluso:
> Il giorno mar, 01/06/2021 alle 11.11 +0200, Leo Prikler ha scritto:
> > > The output could be a collection of .tar.gz files distributed
> > > through
> > > ipfs, bittorrent, syncthing or rsync
> > > 
> > > Not necessarily packages in the way Guix intends them
> > > 
> > > I understand there's already some work going on to reproduce
> > > tarballs
> > > in a format convenient to Guix (maybe with proper hashes and
> > > metadata
> > > ?) for when they get erased by distributors
> > Well, ideally Guix would have have ipfs-fetch, bittorrent-fetch
> > etc.
> > as
> > methods or fallbacks, but this doesn't solve the problem that's
> > posed
> > here.  You can't just pull the complete source closure of e.g.
> > Fractal
> > over the ether and pretend it's just one package.
> 
> Probably the Fractal package will depend on some others, so it's
> gonna be a collection 🤷️
> 
> Doesn't that happen already for traditional tarballs ?
We don't stuff tarball collections into packages.  We stuff inputs into
packages and one input equals one tarball.

> >   We already drop all
> > vendored dependencies from tarballs, that aren't created by Rust et
> > al., this does the exact opposite.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand
> 
> This does the opposite ?
> 
> How so ?
Let's assume we form this sexp-pack and use it as input to some
package.  What happens?

Regards,
Leo




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