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Re: Release v1.4?


From: Efraim Flashner
Subject: Re: Release v1.4?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:02:47 +0300

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 03:31:34PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org> skribis:
> 
> > Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >> So plain ‘emacs’ package doesn’t work on Wayland?  That sounds like
> >> a
> >> recipe for a poor user experience, no?
> >
> > The mainline Emacs is not Wayland-native, but it (along with just
> > about everything else) will run fine under XWayland. It's how I've
> > been running it for some time now. The user experience is almost
> > indistinguishable from either the ‘pgtk’ branch or the mainline,
> > X-only branch.
> >
> >> (FWIW folks like me who use exwm, ratpoison, or one of these geeky
> >> tiling window managers probably can’t switch.)
> >
> > This is correct, but I don't see why this should prevent Guix offering
> > the option for Wayland-based compositors/window-managers out of the
> > box as all it does is offer more options for users.
> 
> Sure.
> 
> > Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I don't believe that setting
> > the ‘wayland’ flag to #t in gdm-configuration causes Wayland to be
> > used for your desktop environment, it merely *allows* it to be
> > selected from the greeter. When logging in you can select from Gnome
> > under X, Gnome under Wayland, or other window managers you may have
> > installed under either environment. Without that flag only the X11
> > window managers will be selectable.
> 
> OK, I wasn’t aware of that; if setting ‘wayland?’ to #t is this smooth
> and basically indistinguishable for those who want to stick with X, then
> I guess we should enable it.
> 
> I’m still unsure whether doing is before the release is reasonable,
> given how much we have on our plate.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.

I think the only real question is what shows up first by default in a
fresh install. I believe by default SDDM will show the window manager
that was last used by default.

My current OS config, when I spin it up in a VM, lists
enlightenment/wayland before enlightenment/X11. I didn't test with
gnome.

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