Re: New Emacs with GTK!

[Sven Utcke]

Niels Freimann <nfreimann@firemail.de> writes:

> Nevertheless if you and others persist on an ncurses emacs then why
> not splitting emacs into gtk and ncurses applications,

Sounds good.  Maybe call the ncurses one Emacs, and the gtk one
XEmacs?

Ups, no, we already did that split in the early 90s...

> However one thing must be clear: Any future development
> must place gtk into the very center. 

It _must_ do so?  As in, if it doesn't, the world will end, the
universe collapse, and you might switch back to Windows?

> emacs must become fully compatible with modern desktop
> environments. It must provide all the dialogs known to the people by
> other GUI programs, and any relicts of the text mode past must
> disappear. Emacs must look and feel like any other gnome, kde, or
> window, application.

Right.  Just what I waited for, Emacs feeling like any other Windows
application.  Does this include the paperclip and insiting on
capitalizing some words, like it or not?

Believe it or not, I did _not_ switch to Unix so as to avoid paying
for software; I switched to Unix because I liked the Unix-Way better
than the MS-Way.  I see no need for my applications to look like
Windows to make me feel at home, just the opposite in fact.

> Richard written it with the future in his mind when others,
> mesmerized by past resource limitations, written text editors for
> terminals connected by very slow modems.

Well, Emacs was actually quite useable for this until 21.x, and given
that until very recently a slow modem was all which connected me with
the outside world, I was grateful for that.

> To be polemical: our competition isn't vms or something, but M$
> windows.

Is it?  I know that I wont use Windows until forced to do so by my
employer, but I might change over go gvim or somesuch if Emacs became
to much of a Windows-lookalike (I'll probably simply stay with an
older Emacs version though).  

On the other hand, even _if_ Windows would be the competition: if
emulating the competition a very forward-looking business-model?

Sven
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