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RE: How to detect new CVS dirs
From: |
Arthur Barrett |
Subject: |
RE: How to detect new CVS dirs |
Date: |
Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:39:12 +1100 |
Hi Peter,
What version client, and what version of server? CVS 1.12 and CVSNT 2.5/2.8
have commands that older releases like CVS 1.10 do not.
Let me ask a fundamental question: why?
I ask this because I've often seen complex technical questions disguise a
perfectly simple requirement that is solved a different way by CVS.
Software that detects changes in the repository, and advises users of this is
quite common. And commonly done poorly. eg: Eclipse 'syncronise' and Oracle
JDeveloper. At least in the case or Oracle, the JDeveloper team did contact us
at some point to ask suggestions of how to do it 'better'. And I applaud you
too for asking.
Technically my answer is that commitlog is the way to achieve this. ie: when
the server receives a change, it can trigger some event (typically sending an
e-mail) and client apps can use that information, or query that information to
get the result. Typically this answer is not well liked. Developers of GUIs
often want something like what you are asking for, i.e.: oh just run command
xyz and it'll tell you....
So here are some more technical thoughts:
1. you could use a variation of 'cvs log' to find all changes between two
points in time - the time your sandbox was last updated and the current time.
2. you could use 'cvs rls' to get a listing of a directory and compare it to
your own directory.
3. try to avoid complex 'cvs -n ' cases - or at least test them thoroughly. I
mostly work on CVSNT (forked from CVS several years ago to support additional
features), and I know that in many cases cvsnt 'cvs -n' does not do what it is
advertised to do. In fact we only 'support' a couple of specific cases of 'cvs
-n up' since we consider it an 'outdated/deprecated' way to 'list modules'.
After 7 years and about 7 million downloads we've only ever had 1 person notice
- and they were a CVS developer (GUI) not a 'person using CVS'. My point?
'cvs -n' is not widely used and therefore probably not widely tested.
Regards,
Arthur Barrett
-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden on behalf of Peter Toft
Sent: Thu 07/07/2011 7:45 AM
To: Info cvs
Cc:
Subject: How to detect new CVS dirs
Hi all
I have a small brain-teaser for the CVS-gurus....
Assume
that I "pto" have a CVS module checked out, and the user "donald" have
the same module checked out -
both on HEAD version. Then "donald" adds
two dirs (Donald/ + Scrooge/) and one file (Scrooge/McDuck)
mkdir
Donald
mkdir Scrooge
echo "money" > Scrooge/McDuck
cvs add
Donald Scrooge
cvs commit Donald Scrooge
cvs add Scrooge/McDuck
cvs commit -m "Money makes the world go around" Scrooge/McDuck
My
question to you is how can "pto" detect what "donald" did - WITHOUT
changing the files locally.
Part of the question is solved by running
cvs -q -n update -AdP
However now it gets a bit more blurry....
I
will see the directories "Donald" and "Scrooge" in my stderr output
cvs update: New directory `Donald' -- ignored
cvs update: New
directory `Scrooge' -- ignored
well - I kinda dislike this, since a
real "cvs update -AdP will prune the empty "Donald" away i.e. I cannot
see
why "cvs -q -n update -AdP" should show this. Comments on this?
The other issue is that I cannot see the file "Scrooge/McDuck" with my
"cvs -q -n update -AdP".
Clues to get that information - again without
actually modifying the local files of me? Comments?
I can solve this
by first doing an actual update of the two dirs, and see what I get -
and then remove the
two dirs, but I would like to solve this with
that strategy.
Best
Peter Toft
--
Peter Toft,
PhD
http://petertoft.dk