Re: [libreplanet-discuss] support me

[Aaron Wolf]

One clarification: To say simply: While Trademark is important, Git is
*abusing* their trademark by not simply accept GitBull quickly. The
situation is stupid. Git had *no* reason to stop a Kallithea host from
using a Git name, and trademark law should not give them that level of
power. If a service is fully and completely using Git software and doing
nothing that misrepresents their relationship to Git, they should be
accepted. However, Git *should* have the ability to complain and stop
the service from using the name if they start doing anything that could
be confused.

I think instead of stopping the use of the name, Git should simply
require a statement like "This service uses Git software but is not
officially connected to the Git project or endorsed by the Git project."

On 04/17/2015 09:13 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote:
> Thanks for the news.
> 
> Please learn more about trademark though. Trademark is NOT owning any
> word. Normal words cannot be trademarked, and trademark isn't full
> ownership of words. The Git project does not own the word "Git" if it
> were used for something like a brand of ice cream. They do not own the
> word in terms of people talking about the Git project. The do not
> control it completely. They have exclusive control over only a small
> area: the use of the word Git for *products* and *services* that are in
> the area where people could confuse them for being official Git products
> or services.
> 
> In other words, trademark is a *consumer protection*. It helps make sure
> that the public are not tricked into thinking something is an official
> version or officially endorsed part of something when it is not. This
> does not make anyone a slave.
> 
> By complaining to you, Git was saying: "We don't know that we fully
> endorse your GitBull service, and we are worried that the public may
> think your service has official connection to the Git project. So, we
> want to restrict the name Git here because we want people to know that
> if they see Git in the name of something similar to or related to the
> Git project that it isn't a fake thing or a trick or something."
> 
> Now, *I* think it is wrong for Git to do anything other than realize
> that GitBull was fine. But I do *not* think they should have no
> trademark. I do *not* want someone else less responsible than you to
> make Git-something that actually uses Git badly or pretends to be like
> Git when it is actually not Git software but something similar but
> different. That might make people have bad experience and think badly of
> Git. Trademark is GOOD for the public, which is not true for patents and
> copyright.
> 
> On 04/17/2015 02:02 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>>
>> Hello Coders!
>>
>> So ... on start this thread wake up with Alimiracle who request for
>> support for fully free solution for his codes host.
>>
>> It is right that many solution already exist, but they are not all
>> completly free or try to be, but are not.
>>
>> We try on our side to make this place a reality, which represent many
>> trouble, but, find the way with kallithea.
>>
>> At first we have used the name gitbull, git for the tool ... bull for
>> the horns of the gnu beast.
>>
>> But freedom is not the same in the mind of every humans.
>>
>> The Software Freedom Conservancy ping me (very correctly) but ping me on
>> the fact we use the term git and the point that git is trademark.
>>
>> That make me discover that many things are trademark and by the way ping
>> LibrePlanet to act on LibreMark.
>>
>> We can't own a name, because to make it short if i own the name earth
>> you are all my slave. If I own the name fire, your ass will freeze ...
>>
>> A bit strong form of explanation, but simple enought to say that it is
>> not because you own a word that in front the reality of this know part
>> of the bubble universes where we live it is the reality.
>>
>> You don't own anything, but yes you can use the force to jail me. Very
>> human and in human by the way.
>>
>> So,
>>
>> We push all our things to https://bull.codes
>>
>> and continue to make the things free as in freedom and price.
>>
>> I understand that this last point is very difficult for some people to
>> understand, but if you think of this planet 7000 years before there were
>> no money and things were not so bad.
>>
>> Maybe money is the chain of slavery you just don't have ping in your
>> mind.
>>
>> Welcome to our Free Coding Community, Welcome to Bull Codes
>>
>> https://bull.codes
>>
>>
>

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