Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?

[Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton]

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:12 PM
<libreplanet-discuss-request@libreplanet.org> wrote:

> willing."   Two two statements are, again, very different.  Ongweso
> Jr.'s false paraphrase is about whether the young woman was willing.
> Stallman's is about how, under the circumstances, the young woman might
> have appeared to Minsky to be willing, for example if she were directed
> to conceal the coercion.

i wrote this on slashdot when the issue came up.
https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=14792004&cid=59195030

the important thing to understand here is the context in which this is
all occurring: spycraft *specifically* designed to manipulate and
extort.  these are people *specifically* trained and given resources,
real-time information and finance to *specifically* corrupt people
based on embarrassment, entrapment, blackmail, fear, threats, and
anything and absolutely everything that is *the* absolute worst
aspects of human behaviour.

to be "outraged" or even to be emotionally disturbed by these
incidents *plays directly into their hands*.

just as happened with the removal of applebaum from TOR.  nobody
except for people such as myself, who has had reverse-engineering
training and exposure to spycraft, even NOTICED the suspicious and
manipulative behaviour which resulted in the Board of Directors behind
TOR being compromised and taken over by people with links to U.S.
Intelligence Services!

and i can't even really talk about that publicly *because nobody would
believe me*.

in this case however it is extremely well-known that Epstein had links
to Intelligence Services, so i can (finally) speak up.

please *do not* play into the hands of the extortionists.  it is
*exactly* what they want.

l.


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Epstein was specifically engaging in the practice of blackmailing high
profile individuals for the purposes of extortion.

He had *specific* training by Intelligence Services on *precisely* how
to threaten women to get them to do what he wanted, and would also
have received similar training on psychological profiling, as well as
ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE dossiers in order to "use" those women as weapons
against the selectively targetted influential individuals.

Unfortunately, if you leave out that context, it is easy to see how
people can become emotionally traumatised by even attempting to
discuss or analyse this situation.

They genuinely believe that this is just some sort of "normal" dirty
situation (some sort of seedy club where it is "fun") whereas in fact
both the "victims" (the women) were targetted *and the men* were
premeditatively targetted as well, for the extortion opportunities
that their transgressions would enable.

*this is just how spycraft works*. it has been this way for centuries.

The unfortunate thing here is that Dr Stallman, like many people on
the autistic spectrum, operate in a much more "objective" fashion with
very delayed or entirely absent emotional reactions and "connection"
to people.

  I assume for example that people can handle the truth, objectively,
because to "lie to yourself" is so anathemic and so wasteful of time
and energy, that I do not want to even spend the time and resources
*modelling* someone else's internal lying!

the reality is that often they simply cannot handle the truth,
particularly when the situation falls so far outside of their social
"norms" that they will do almost anything to make the discrepancy
between reality and their expectations go away.

I will not say more, other than that if you are the kind of person who
prays for people affected by this, please do so, and if you are not,
simply relax, and rather than be upset or outraged or angered towards
anyone - *anyone* at all in this entire mess, to simply wish them
well, and to then move on with your own life.