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Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice
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Trevor Daniels |
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Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice |
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Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:55:01 -0000 |
Simon Albrecht wrote Thursday, January 05, 2017 10:16 PM
>>> On 04.01.2017 15:01, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>>> This is just a quirk of the 4/4 [meter], also mentioned in Hindemith,
>>>> "Elementary Training", p. 30. In other words, the note should not cross
>>>> the 2nd and 4th metric accents, but it can cross the [3rd].
>
> I’ve never heard of that and would assume it is a peculiarity in
> Hindemith. Can anyone cite Gould or similar on the topic?
Well, Elaine Gould has several pages on the topic - 166-169.
That section starts:
"Note-values sustained across a beat or half-bar must expose
the beat structure of the bar:
[examples picked out are all in 4/4 time]
8 4.~ 8 4 8 and not 8 2 4 8
8 8 8 8~ 4. 8 and not 8 8 8 2 8
"Only very straightforward rhythms may be written across the beat
or half-bar: 4 2. or 2.... 32 [are OK]"
"As the division of a bar becomes more complex, it is essential to
reveal more of the beats."
"When the rhythms are not part of a regular pattern, the long duration
may be divided to expose the beats or half-bar, to make the rhythm
easier to count. In 4/4 it is the third (not the fourth) beat that should
be exposed:
2~ 4... 32 or even 2~ 4~ 8.. 32 "
So her essential message is reveal as many beats with ties as is
necessary to make the required rhythm clear. There is no definite
rule.
Trevor
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, (continued)
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Hans Åberg, 2017/01/04
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Simon Albrecht, 2017/01/04
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Hans Åberg, 2017/01/04
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Simon Albrecht, 2017/01/05
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Hans Åberg, 2017/01/05
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Hans Aikema, 2017/01/05
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Simon Albrecht, 2017/01/05
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Hans Åberg, 2017/01/05
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Hans Aikema, 2017/01/05
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice, Thomas Morley, 2017/01/06
- Re: 5027: NR example with bad engraving practice,
Trevor Daniels <=