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Re: What is holding up 2.20 release?


From: Carl Sorensen
Subject: Re: What is holding up 2.20 release?
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:17:05 +0000
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On 11/16/19, 2:14 PM, "David Kastrup" <address@hidden> wrote:

    Carl Sorensen <address@hidden> writes:
    
    > On 11/16/19, 1:52 PM, "David Kastrup" <address@hidden> wrote:
    >
    >     Carl Sorensen <address@hidden> writes:
    >     
    >     > Dear Team,
    >     >
    >     > It seems to me like we are pretty much in shape such that we should
    >     > release 2.20.  I'd be fine if we called 2.19.83-1 the 2.20 release,
    >     > even if there are some critical regressions.  2.19.83 is SO much
    >     > better than 2.18.2.
    >     >
    >     > IIUC, the only thing 2.20 is waiting on is for David K. to 
cherry-pick
    >     > some patches.  Is that correct?
    >     
    >     And putting out a new prerelease to be sure that those are ok, and
    >     waiting for the translators to catch up with cherry-picked patches
    >     containing stuff to be translated.
    >     
    >     But the current roadblock is David K. cherry-picking some patches.  
    >
    > Is the reason for cherry-picking such a big list of patches to avoid
    > some regressions?
    
    THIS IS NOT A LIST FOR CHERRY-PICKING!!!!  It is a unculled list of
    potential candidates that _may_ need or want to be cherry-picked, in
    case a particular candidate is
    
    either
    a) fixing a regression
    b) fixing a problem that will foreseeably cause trouble with near-future
    or our current build systems
    c) fixing a problem or providing a feature that will foreseeably cause
    frequent tension between 2.20 and 2.21 users if not cherry-picked
    d) a definite improvement that does not show potential for causing new
    regressions
    e) a documentation fix/change matching 2.20 behavior
    
    and/or/maybe
    a) cherry-picks reasonably painlessly
    b) does not cause significant followup tasks to be also scheduled
    
    > Or are these patches that were created after we put out the last
    > pre-release?
    
    Minus those I already cherry-picked
    
    > Would you like me to try doing the cherry-picking for you?
    
    If anybody tries indiscriminately picking that list, I am going to be
    pissed.  The majority of those patches likely has no place in 2.20.

OK, I will not do any cherry-picking.

Is there anything else that can be done to help?

Carl
   


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