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[Pan-users] Re: Old Pan: Cannot see newsgroup 'read' items before March


From: Duncan
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Old Pan: Cannot see newsgroup 'read' items before March 11
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies)

Maurice <address@hidden> posted
address@hidden, excerpted below, on  Wed, 13 Aug
2008 12:40:19 +0100:

> (Using 'old' Pan 0.14.2.91 under Mandriva 2008.0)
> 
> In several newsgroup folders I cannot see any 'read' items dated before
> March this year, although in at least one there are postings going back
> to 2007.
> 
> Is there some kind of date or 'number of postings' cut-off for
> displaying postings?
> Presumably Pan hasn't deleted them, so how can I get it to display them?

I'm not quite clear on what you mean, whether it's the post bodies or the 
overviews/headers you can't see.  If it's the overviews/headers, how do 
you know there's posts going back?  Maybe you're checking with another 
client, or manually, using telnet?  Anyway...

With old-pan, posts (overviews/headers) were expired when the server 
expired them (well, on next connect when pan found out they were expired 
on the server).  One of the problems with this is that servers sometimes 
have issues, and may appear to lose their posts for a time, before they 
are restored from backup or wherever.  If you meant you couldn't see the 
headers, maybe this is what happened, and pan deleted them when they went 
missing from the server.  When they were restored on the server, since 
they were old messages, pan didn't download them again.  If this is your 
case, try the download all headers option (in old-pan this is under more 
download options).  That should get all the old headers again.  There's a 
checkbox to get bodies while you are at it too.

If it's the posts themselves (aka the bodies) that are gone but you can 
see the overviews/headers, presumably pan expired the bodies when it 
reached its cache size limit.  If the server still has the whole posts, 
you should be able to click on them and download them again (perhaps 
after setting the cache size larger so it doesn't just expire something 
else).  However, it's possible the server is still showing the overviews/
headers, but no longer has the whole posts itself.  If you've not updated 
the overviews/headers in awhile, it's also possible that you are trying 
to work from old data already entirely expired off the server.  In either 
case, you're out of luck.  If the data's not on the server, you can't 
download it, so once it's gone locally, it's gone.

HTH...

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman





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