Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] Project Structure

[Dan Kuykendall]

Reiner Jung wrote:
> Cool, all the jonny come late make the job for "your" project?

I am not trying to say "my" project in the sense that I am the only 
reason its as good as it is. Its a community effort. But I feel like its 
father and the project is very dear to me, and in this I have some sense 
of personal ownership to its growth and future. This does not seem like 
any mistery. I am certain that jengo, skeeter and ceb all feel similair, 
as well as anyone else who has started an OSS/FS project.

> The have
> the rights to create code for you? the have the rights for translation.
> The have the rights to give support. 
>
> Have they more rights, or it is enough that they be members in your
> project

They have right to be part of the phpGW community. But I dont think they 
have the right to kick the founding four out of the project.

> What is here the difference between between people which organize the
> translations and other things and the API programmer? Is the API
> programmer a better man only why he knows how programming in PHP.

As far as being the person to organize, I think they are as important as 
eachother. I was think more along the lines of deciding issues of code.

> > I am not going to assign my code away. I was planning to in the past, 
> > but with this type of crap turning up it will be a cold day in hell 
> > before it happens. Same for the phpgroupware.org domain.
>
> Yes, this a real democratic way to handle a project. When you don't
> agree with me, the i have my code and my domain. This are your
> arguments?

I never said phpGW was a real democracy.

> > OK. Now you have cleared up the limit of the CT. Basicly you want it run 
> >  by popular vote of the contributors. This is terribly flawed because 
> > people outside of the issue are of equal vote
>
> This terrible flaw is democracy 

There are very few pure democracies in the world. It has been proven 
that represnative democracies work better.


> > Its an interesting discussion. But as it is setup now I will simply not 
> > agree. I will pull back control of the project and force it to fork 
> > before it will even come close.
>
> How you pull back control over the project? You want kick all out which
> not agree with you? 

Means I would let it fork before passing phpGW on to a structure I 
cannot agree with.

Dan