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Re: qmp-shell TUI (was: Re: Call for Google Summer of Code 2021 project


From: Daniel P . Berrangé
Subject: Re: qmp-shell TUI (was: Re: Call for Google Summer of Code 2021 project ideas)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:24:46 +0000
User-agent: Mutt/1.14.6 (2020-07-11)

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 05:14:28PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 04:55:30PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 04:49:17PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 03:22:41PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 04:02:56PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > > > Am 14.01.2021 um 14:59 hat Daniel P. Berrangé geschrieben:
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 01:52:34PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 01:59:43PM -0500, John Snow wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 1/13/21 3:53 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:10 PM John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 2. Ability to watch QMP activity on a running QEMU process, 
> > > > > > > > > e.g. even
> > > > > > > > > when libvirt is directly connected to the monitor.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That *WOULD* be extremely cool, and moves a lot closer to how 
> > > > > > > > mitmproxy
> > > > > > > > works.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > (Actually, mitmproxy could theoretically be taught how to read 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > understand QMP traffic, but that's not something I know how to 
> > > > > > > > do or would
> > > > > > > > be prepared to mentor.)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is this possible to do in a post-hoc fashion? Let's say you are 
> > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > production environment QEMU, how do we attach the QMP listener 
> > > > > > > > to it? Or
> > > > > > > > does this idea require that we start QEMU in a specific fashion 
> > > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > > second debug socket that qmp-shell can connect to in order to 
> > > > > > > > listen?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ... Or do we engineer qmp-shell to open its own socket that 
> > > > > > > > libvirt connects
> > > > > > > > to ...?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Here is the QEMU command-line that libvirt uses on my F33 system:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   -chardev socket,id=charmonitor,fd=36,server,nowait
> > > > > > >   -mon chardev=charmonitor,id=monitor,mode=control
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Goals for this feature:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. No manual steps required for setup.
> > > > > > > 2. Ability to start/stop monitoring traffic at runtime without
> > > > > > >    restarting QEMU.
> > > > > > > 3. Available to unprivileged users.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think the easiest way to achieve this is through a new QEMU 
> > > > > > > monitor
> > > > > > > command. Approaches that come to mind:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. Add a -mon debug-chardev property and a QMP command to set it 
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > >    runtime. The debug-chardev receives both monitor input 
> > > > > > > (commands) and
> > > > > > >    output (responses and events). This does not allow MITM, 
> > > > > > > rather it
> > > > > > >    mirrors traffic.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2. Add a chardev-get-fd command that fetches the fd from a 
> > > > > > > chardev and
> > > > > > >    then use the existing chardev-change command to replace the 
> > > > > > > monitor
> > > > > > >    chardev with a chardev connected to qmp-shell. This inserts 
> > > > > > > qmp-shell
> > > > > > >    as a proxy between the QMP client and server. qmp-shell can 
> > > > > > > remove
> > > > > > >    itself again with another chardev-change command. This approach
> > > > > > >    allows MITM. The downside is it assumes the QMP chardev is a 
> > > > > > > file
> > > > > > >    descriptor, so it won't work with all types of chardev.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 3. Add a new chardev-proxy type that aggregates 3 chardevs: 1. an 
> > > > > > > origin
> > > > > > >    source chardev, 2. a monitoring sink chardev, and 3. a 
> > > > > > > monitoring
> > > > > > >    source chardev. The data flow is origin <-> monitoring sink <->
> > > > > > >    monitoring source <-> QMP monitor. qmp-shell creates the 
> > > > > > > monitoring
> > > > > > >    sink (for receiving incoming QMP commands) and monitoring 
> > > > > > > source
> > > > > > >    chardev (for forwarding QMP commands or MITM commands), and 
> > > > > > > then it
> > > > > > >    uses change-chardev to instantiate a chardev-proxy that 
> > > > > > > directs the
> > > > > > >    original libvirt chardev through the monitoring sink and 
> > > > > > > source.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >    This is the most complex but also completely contained within 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >    QEMU chardev layer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have an idea for the QMP command name: chardev-snapshot-sync!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Finally we get backing file chains for chardevs! :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > In all these approaches qmp-shell uses virsh qemu-monitor-command 
> > > > > > > or an
> > > > > > > equivalent API to start/stop monitoring a running VM without 
> > > > > > > manual
> > > > > > > setup steps.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why go to the trouble of adding more chardevs to a running QEMU that
> > > > > > libvirt has.  qmp-shell can just directly use the libvirt Python API
> > > > > > to invoke  virDomainQemuMonitorCommand to invoke QMP commands, and
> > > > > > the othe API for receiving QMP events.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Essentially it just needs to be split into two layers. The upper
> > > > > > layer works in terms of individual QMP command/replies, and QMP
> > > > > > events. The lower layer provides a transport that is either a
> > > > > > UNIX socket, or is the libvirt QMP passthrough API.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Or alternatively, provide a virt-qmp-shim  command that listens on
> > > > > > a UNIX socket, accepts QMP commands and turns them into calls to
> > > > > > virDomainQemuMonitorCommand, and funnells back the response.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think the idea was to show the QMP traffic that libvirt produces for
> > > > > other management applications, not for the QMP shell. These APIs
> > > > > probably don't allow this?
> > > > 
> > > > FWIW if you want to monitor what libvirt is sending/receiving we have
> > > > a script for that that uses our systemtap probe points:
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/blob/master/examples/systemtap/qemu-monitor.stp
> > > 
> > > Does that require root?
> > 
> > Yeah, systemtap generally requires root.
> > 
> > The same info is also written to the log files. For example:
> > 
> >   virt-admin daemon-log-filters "2:qemu_monitor_json"
> >   virt-admin daemon-lop-outputs "2:file:/var/log/libvirt/libvirtd.log"
> > 
> > nb, i'm using level '2' there to avoid enabling  debug logs, only
> > info level logs which is the level dynamic probes  log at.
> 
> On my F33 system /var/log/libvirt is owned by root:root and rwx------,
> so I guess it would be necessary to reconfigure log output so that
> unprivileged users can access it.

If you're connected to the privileged libvirtd then you have
effectively got root privileges, so that shouldn't be an issue.

If you're connecting to the unprivileged libvirtd, then you would
tell it to use $HOME/.cache/libvirt/libvirtd.log instead.

> If it can be used in conjunction with virDomainQemuMonitorCommand(),
> then that eliminates the need to introduce new chardev functionality in
> QEMU.
> 
> Parsing libvirt logs was one of the things I suggested, though. I think
> it would be a nice feature for troubleshooting QMP conversations.


Regards,
Daniel
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