[Savannah-cvs] administration/content gnu-content/mail/about_l...

[Karl Berry]

CVSROOT:        /web/administration
Module name:    administration
Changes by:     Karl Berry <karl>       08/03/09 17:10:34

Modified files:
        content/gnu-content/mail: about_list_creation.txt 
        content/nongnu-content/mail: about_list_creation.txt 

Log message:
        descriptions of new defaults

CVSWeb URLs:
http://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/administration/content/gnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt?cvsroot=administration&r1=1.1&r2=1.2
http://web.cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/administration/content/nongnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt?cvsroot=administration&r1=1.1&r2=1.2

Patches:
Index: gnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt
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RCS file: 
/web/administration/administration/content/gnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -b -r1.1 -r1.2
--- gnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt    2 Mar 2004 20:10:35 -0000       
1.1
+++ gnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt    9 Mar 2008 17:10:28 -0000       
1.2
@@ -1,5 +1,61 @@
 <!-- Savannah - Speech added about list creation -->
-<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.1 2004/03/02 20:10:35 Beuc Exp $  BEGIN 
-->
+<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.2 2008/03/09 17:10:28 karl Exp $  BEGIN 
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+<h3>New mailing lists at Savannah</h3>
 
-<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.1 2004/03/02 20:10:35 Beuc Exp $  END -->
+<p>New mailing lists created through Savannah have the following
+features enabled by default, in addition to the usual
+<a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/";>GNU Mailman</a>
+defaults.</p>
+
+<ul>
+<li>No footer is added to messages (<tt>footer</tt>, under
+&lsquo;Non-digest options&rsquo;).</li>
+
+<li>When a new member joins the list, their initial posting is held for
+the list owner's review (<tt>default_member_moderation</tt>, under
+&lsquo;Privacy &gt; Sender filters&rsquo;).  This is necessary because
+smart spam systems can now automatically subscribe to mailman lists and
+then start sending their junk mail.  However, provided the subscription
+is legitimate (as it usually will be), we strongly recommend
+<i>accept</i>ing their address for future postings.</li>
+
+<li>Automated (though asynchronous) spam deletion, through the <a
+href="http://www.nongnu.org/listhelper/";>listhelper system</a>.  More
+details about this:</li>
+
+<ul>
+<li>The first time a person posts to a list under a particular email
+address, the message is held for review, potentially by the mailman list
+owner(s) (you), the listhelper automated system, and the listhelper
+human volunteers.  This is when spam is detected and deleted.</li>
+
+<li>Therefore, if you are concerned about your list's messages being
+seen by the small group of listhelper volunteers, you should disable
+listhelper (remove address@hidden from the <tt>moderator</tt>
+field on the &lsquo;General Options&rsquo; page), and consequently deal
+with any incoming spam yourself.</li>
+
+<li>By default, Mailman sends a &ldquo;request for approval&rdquo;
+notification on every message, and this is critical for listhelper's
+operation.  You will probably want to filter these from your inbox, with
+a pattern such as this:<br>
+<tt>^Subject: confirm [a-f0-9]{40}</tt>
+<br>
+(Despite appearances, that needs to match in the body of the message,
+not the headers.)  Alternatively, if you choose to turn off listhelper,
+you may also want to turn off this option (<tt>admin_immed_notify</tt>
+on the &lsquo;General Options&rsquo; page).</li>
+
+<li>For more information, see the <a
+href="http://www.nongnu.org/listhelper/";>listhelper home page</a>.</li>
+
+</ul>
+</ul>
+
+<p>Of course, as the list owner, you can make changes to the
+configuration at any time, but if in any doubt, please ask.  The
+defaults are set to minimize spam, list administrator overhead, and the
+chance of our mail server being blacklisted.</p>
+
+<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.2 2008/03/09 17:10:28 karl Exp $  END -->

Index: nongnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt
===================================================================
RCS file: 
/web/administration/administration/content/nongnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -b -r1.1 -r1.2
--- nongnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt 2 Mar 2004 20:09:55 -0000       
1.1
+++ nongnu-content/mail/about_list_creation.txt 9 Mar 2008 17:10:34 -0000       
1.2
@@ -1,5 +1,61 @@
 <!-- Savannah - Speech added about list creation -->
-<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.1 2004/03/02 20:09:55 Beuc Exp $  BEGIN 
-->
+<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.2 2008/03/09 17:10:34 karl Exp $  BEGIN 
-->
 
+<h3>New mailing lists at Savannah</h3>
 
-<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.1 2004/03/02 20:09:55 Beuc Exp $  END -->
+<p>New mailing lists created through Savannah have the following
+features enabled by default, in addition to the usual
+<a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/";>GNU Mailman</a>
+defaults.</p>
+
+<ul>
+<li>No footer is added to messages (<tt>footer</tt>, under
+&lsquo;Non-digest options&rsquo;).</li>
+
+<li>When a new member joins the list, their initial posting is held for
+the list owner's review (<tt>default_member_moderation</tt>, under
+&lsquo;Privacy &gt; Sender filters&rsquo;).  This is necessary because
+smart spam systems can now automatically subscribe to mailman lists and
+then start sending their junk mail.  However, provided the subscription
+is legitimate (as it usually will be), we strongly recommend
+<i>accept</i>ing their address for future postings.</li>
+
+<li>Automated (though asynchronous) spam deletion, through the <a
+href="http://www.nongnu.org/listhelper/";>listhelper system</a>.  More
+details about this:</li>
+
+<ul>
+<li>The first time a person posts to a list under a particular email
+address, the message is held for review, potentially by the mailman list
+owner(s) (you), the listhelper automated system, and the listhelper
+human volunteers.  This is when spam is detected and deleted.</li>
+
+<li>Therefore, if you are concerned about your list's messages being
+seen by the small group of listhelper volunteers, you should disable
+listhelper (remove address@hidden from the <tt>moderator</tt>
+field on the &lsquo;General Options&rsquo; page), and consequently deal
+with any incoming spam yourself.</li>
+
+<li>By default, Mailman sends a &ldquo;request for approval&rdquo;
+notification on every message, and this is critical for listhelper's
+operation.  You will probably want to filter these from your inbox, with
+a pattern such as this:<br>
+<tt>^Subject: confirm [a-f0-9]{40}</tt>
+<br>
+(Despite appearances, that needs to match in the body of the message,
+not the headers.)  Alternatively, if you choose to turn off listhelper,
+you may also want to turn off this option (<tt>admin_immed_notify</tt>
+on the &lsquo;General Options&rsquo; page).</li>
+
+<li>For more information, see the <a
+href="http://www.nongnu.org/listhelper/";>listhelper home page</a>.</li>
+
+</ul>
+</ul>
+
+<p>Of course, as the list owner, you can make changes to the
+configuration at any time, but if in any doubt, please ask.  The
+defaults are set to minimize spam, list administrator overhead, and the
+chance of our mail server being blacklisted.</p>
+
+<!-- $Id: about_list_creation.txt,v 1.2 2008/03/09 17:10:34 karl Exp $  END -->