running speech-dispatcher-0.7.1 in system mode

[Steve Holmes]

In following this thread, I have to say one thing that hasn't really
been addressed is kernel based solutions like Speakup.  The only way I
know if that one could use Speakup with Speech Dispatcher is through
speechd_up and AFAIK, that would require Speech Dispatcher to run as a
system service.  So we need to keep that functionality in place.  

For the most part lately, the autospawn feature in Speech Dispatcher
has been working OK but I did have a few random occurrences where it
did not start up properly and thus Orca did not come up talking.  I
tend to bullet proof myself by running a quick test of spd-say just to
make sure Speech Dispatcher is running OK before doing a startx.  The
bad thing about doing it this way is if I were to use gdm and have it
use Orca and all, that autospawn would have to work *EVERY* time as I
can't easily jump into a gdm user session and quick test spd-say
first.  When I was using a system service, it was just there and
always working.

Now I can see if a multi user situation is going on, then we need the
session stuff like we have it now.  I think I like the idea of having
command lines options to override the default socket method and
possibly, speech output method.  This way, I, as a package maintainer,
could set up a central script and allow for Speech Dispatcher to run
as a system service but still offer the config files built in a way a
user could use them in user session mode if so desired.  Then the user
could just decide whether or not to have that startup script run or
not.

On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 12:51:23PM +0200, Hynek Hanke wrote:
> On 6.10.2010 10:50, Halim Sahin wrote:
> >>Trev, we need to care. If major distributions use this, our
> >>users use this, and they are whom we do it for.
> >
> >I think you should care about complete a11y console plus desktop.
> >Ubuntu != linux a11y.
> 
> Yes, exactly. I was saying that if we care for linux accessibility,
> we need to care about Ubuntu and Fedora too.
> 
> >They moved to pulseaudio (and the knew that a11y will be broken) in
> >these releases. Pulseaudio maintainer is the same person who is
> >responsible for a11y in ubuntu.
> 
> And a long-term Speech Dispatcher contributor.
> 
> >>>There are some clients like brltty which as Samuel has already
> >>>   explained to you _can't_ work this way.
> >>This is simply not true.
> >Well what's true? Please describe howto use it or better provide a
> >working alternative.
> 
> I've described before. BrlTTY can be made to work
> in a model that works in Ubuntu or Fedora too.
> We just need to setup a roadmap for that and then
> do something about it. Sorry for the inconvenience,
> but please have a little patience.
> 
> >BTW.: speechd-el != Screenreader!
> 
> Definitely not, it is an application reader.
> 
> Best regards,
> Hynek Hanke
> 
> 
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