Update related to F123e

[John G Heim]

Stupid orca & thunderbird!!! I keep responding to the wrong messages.





On 11/07/2016 10:02 AM, John G Heim wrote:
> I thought it was a one-time thing. It wasn't clear in your original 
> message that it happens every time. I'll fix it.
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> On 11/07/2016 05:35 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>> A file emacspeak-easy-howto has some useful information in it.  I'll 
>> search my bookmarks and see if I can locate a link, but a google 
>> search with file:emacspeak-easy-howto ought to locate it if I don't 
>> have it in my bookmarks.
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>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Fernando Botelho wrote:
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>>> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 06:16:20
>>> From: Fernando Botelho <Fernando.Botelho at F123.org>
>>> To: Peter V?gner <pvdeejay at gmail.com>, blinux-list at redhat.com,
>>>     speechd at lists.freebsoft.org, F123e at groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: Update related to F123e
>>>
>>> Peter, we have now linked to your first post on this topic.
>>>
>>> Do you have plans to research the possibility of importing Spacemacs 
>>> keybindings to Emacs before you memorize too many of those Emacs 
>>> keybindings?
>>>
>>> Fernando
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/07/2016 07:53 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It took me a long time to decide but I have attempted to start 
>>>> first blog post of what I hope will be a series on short tips on 
>>>> emacs accessibility.
>>>>
>>>> For example I am looking into it for about a year sporadically.
>>>>
>>>> I like F123E plan but instead of automation I would rather like to 
>>>> do something that would build on Arch linux philosophy. I am not 
>>>> going to rewrote the documentation but I would like to try showing 
>>>> some success stories while handling these things. Most of the 
>>>> articles end with a message saying something like it has a bit 
>>>> higher learning curve etc but unfortunatelly very little of them 
>>>> actually showcase how to go about changing that.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see how this attempt will turn out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So far I have got into basic buffer navigation and manipulation 
>>>> commands, navigating around emacs in general, emacs editing 
>>>> commands, understood so called easy customizations, got my-self to 
>>>> install and upgrade packages from elpa / melpa, briefly started 
>>>> playing with org mode, learned about basic dired file manipulation 
>>>> features, managed to connect to twitter with twittering-mode. And 
>>>> some invisible issues along my way such as debugging issues with 
>>>> request.el library and curl, getting epg working with gpg.
>>>>
>>>> These are things I hope I have learned enough so I can comfortably 
>>>> use them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Next on my todo list are knowing speechd-el better, emacs packages 
>>>> such as matrix-client for inovative instant messaging and more, 
>>>> jabber for classic messaging, gnus for email, sauron for integrated 
>>>> notifications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is my initial plan and these are things I wish to eventually 
>>>> cover later.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My first article just talks about installing and running emacs for 
>>>> the first time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://pvagner.tk/2016/emacs-a11y-tip-1-introduction-and-how-to-install 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course if you have ideas, comments, anything feel free to post.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and greetings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06.11.2016 at 18:17 Fernando Botelho wrote:
>>>>> Thanks to those who have sent feedback to my emails to various lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far this is what I have found out:
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of people are in agreement regarding the need for:
>>>>>
>>>>> * An easier way to install and setup Emacspeak;
>>>>> * An easier way for Emacspeak to use eSpeak and/or other 
>>>>> synthesizers; and
>>>>> * At least one expert also mentioned that Spacemacs does not solve 
>>>>> all issues, as it has some inaccessible output.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it has been said that:
>>>>>
>>>>> * SpeechD-el can make Emacs accessible;
>>>>> * SpeechD-el already works well with Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak;
>>>>> * SpeechD-el is already easier to install and is multilingual by 
>>>>> default;
>>>>> * SpeechD-el could even be used to bridge communication between 
>>>>> Emacspeak and Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak; and
>>>>> * it might be easier to just bring Spacemacs keybindings to 
>>>>> classic Emacs rather than move all of the SpeechD-el or Emacspeak 
>>>>> accessibility to Spacemacs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have updated our project document accordingly:
>>>>> https://public.f123.org/experimental/About-F123e.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Fernando
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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