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RE: [Bug-gnubg] Recent RGB posting on "Change Dice" Option

From: Ian Shaw
Subject: RE: [Bug-gnubg] Recent RGB posting on "Change Dice" Option
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:22:57 -0000

> From: Øystein O Johansen [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: 05 December 2002 08:24
> > I'm sorry: I couldn't resist :-) I've implemented the roll
> > joker/roll anti-joker part (except for the opening roll)...
> > If someone thinks this is juuuuust toooo much let me know,
> > and I'll remove it again :-)
> I'm, sorry!
> I don't like this. I think it will only give more arguments 
> to those who
> really believe the bots are cheating. Maybe this code should 
> be distributed
> as a patch, and then someone can patch it them self if they 
> really want
> this code.
I disagree. I don't think those who accuse bots of cheating will be pacified by 
anything. I doubt there is anybody who TRULY believes an open source program 
like GnuBg is cheating. Their arguments simply can not be credibly sustained. 
Last time I bothered to read him, even r.g.bg's most persistent troll had 
retreated from accusing GnuBg of cheating, simply calling it rubbish for 
unspecified reasons and claiming he could beat it with his cube actions.
The people who discover bots for the first time and accuse the bots of cheating 
'cos they can't believe what's hitting them are quickly convinced by the usual 
arguments; repeatable dice, repeatable moves in a given position, etc. 
Those who accuse the bots of cheating for their own amusement will always find 
some spurious argument. The fact that a cheat mode exist may even be a good 
thing. They will have to argue that there is both the official, obvious, cheat 
mode and a hidden, subtle, one, which I think would sound even more ridiculous. 
"Keep it in!", I say. Refuse to be restricted by a tiny minority of loudmouths. 


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