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Re: Some Hurd related thoughts from someone who has no right to talk


From: Joshua Branson
Subject: Re: Some Hurd related thoughts from someone who has no right to talk
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:53:05 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux)

Amos Jeffries <address@hidden> writes:

> On 08/06/18 04:58, Joshua Branson wrote:
>> 
>> I would actually recommend that you just run the Hurd in qemu.  Most, if
>> not all, of the main Hurd developers just run the Hurd inside qemu.
>> 
>> Also a cool idea!  I believe I read somewhere that it possible to have
>> the Hurd running in qemu, but make the X server run in Linux.  This is
>> apparently a really stable way to run the Hurd.
>> 
>> Also, maybe you and I could try to start up a GNU/Hurd hangout session.
>> Kind of like the Emacs hangouts.
>> 
>
> Speaking of that. I tried to follow the instructions at
> <https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/qemu.html> yesterday. It
> seems to be very much in need of updating.

Are you sure?  Which ones don't work?

I've never had a problem with the first two:
$ wget http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/debian-hurd.img.tar.gz
$ tar -xz < debian-hurd.img.tar.gz

I have had problems with the last command:

$ kvm -m 1G -drive cache=writeback,file=$(echo debian-hurd-*.img)

mainly that "kvm" is not the command you use.  I've always had to run
  qemu-system-i386.

My script looks like so:

#!/bin/bash
modprobe kvm
modprobe kvm_intel
cd ~/programming/gnu/hurd/vm/
MEMORY=2G
FILE=debian-hurd-2017-06-13.img
# If I ever need to add a cdrom
    echo "running ssh"

qemu-system-i386 -m $MEMORY -net nic                          \
                     -net user,hostfwd=tcp:127.0.0.1:2222-:22     \
                     -drive file=$FILE,cache=writeback,format=raw \
                     -enable-kvm                                  \
                     -curses                                      \
                     -no-reboot;
                     # -curses                                      \
                     # -machine kernel_irqchip=off                  \


>
> Since the section is about use on Debian it should at least mention the
> packages (qemu-kvm) that need installing for the kvm command to work
> properly. The links are also all stale, though at least there are
> working redirectors in place.

P.S. I have a video at youtube explaining how to contribute to the Hurd
wiki.  My channel is called the GNU Guy.  If you do decide to edit the
wiki, send your patch to bug-hurd.  No one uses the web-hurd mailing list.

>
> AYJ



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