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Re: Some Hurd related thoughts from someone who has no right to talk


From: Joshua Branson
Subject: Re: Some Hurd related thoughts from someone who has no right to talk
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:19:39 -0400
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Amos Jeffries <address@hidden> writes:

> On 09/06/18 04:53, Joshua Branson wrote:
>> Amos Jeffries writes:
>> 
>>> On 08/06/18 04:58, Joshua Branson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would actually recommend that you just run the Hurd in qemu.  Most, if
>>>> not all, of the main Hurd developers just run the Hurd inside qemu.
>>>>
>>>> Also a cool idea!  I believe I read somewhere that it possible to have
>>>> the Hurd running in qemu, but make the X server run in Linux.  This is
>>>> apparently a really stable way to run the Hurd.
>>>>
>>>> Also, maybe you and I could try to start up a GNU/Hurd hangout session.
>>>> Kind of like the Emacs hangouts.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Speaking of that. I tried to follow the instructions at
>>> <https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/qemu.html> yesterday. It
>>> seems to be very much in need of updating.
>> 
>> Are you sure?  Which ones don't work?
>> 
>
> The section is talking about qemu, but as a newbie having installed the
> qemu package (apt says successfully) the "kvm" command still will not
> work.  It needs the qemu-kvm package specifically.

hmmm.  It sounds like you should contribute to the hurd website!
There's a webpage on it on the wiki or you could look up my contributing
video on my youtube channel: "The GNU Guy".

>
> And most of the URLs mentioned are outdated, more updated ones seem to
> be listed inside the README.
>
>
>
>> I've never had a problem with the first two:
>> $ wget http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/debian-hurd.img.tar.gz
>> $ tar -xz < debian-hurd.img.tar.gz
>> 
>
> "HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request"
>
> Location:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/latest/hurd-i386/debian-hurd.img.tar.gz

Where are you seeing this?  I don't see that URL on
https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/qemu.html

why don't you try getting the latest debian-hurd image available via
this command:

$ wget http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/debian-hurd.img.tar.gz

>
> Samuel seems to only have a Hurd repo in his directory now. Not the
> built images.
>
>
>> I have had problems with the last command:
>> 
>> $ kvm -m 1G -drive cache=writeback,file=$(echo debian-hurd-*.img)
>> 
>> mainly that "kvm" is not the command you use.  I've always had to run
>>   qemu-system-i386.
>> 
>
> The kvm command seemed to work fine once I moved to other documentation
> about KVM instead of qemu had me uninstall qemu and install the qemu-kvm
> package.

Again this should be fixed on the website.  You can do it!  Send your
patches to the bug-hurd mailing list.

>
>
> AYJ



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