Re: [Denemo-devel] insert chord symbols?

[Richard Shann]

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 20:58 +0100, Ludo Beckers wrote:
> Sorry, slight misunderstanding - I didn't mean "score: arranger" is
> visible in the PDF, but as a tab (or button, what do you call it in
> denemo) on the button bar, and in Lilypond view I see arranger = "".

This is good. The button means that arranger is set to nothing, and you
should be able to click on it if you change your mind and want to set it
to something. If you cannot the installation is broken (or denemo.0.8.22
has a bug :)



> The PDF is good. 
> 
> In File the last entry is Quit. Apart from the 3 Open(s) I mentioned,
> there's new file, new tab, save ,save as, print preview, print part.
> No more.
This installation would seem to be broken. Can you hide ~/.denemo and
try again. I think an old version may be breaking things.

cd
mv ~/.denemo ~/.denemoHIDDEN
and re-run denemo.
You will have to re-set ctrl-k unfortunately.

Richard



> 
> So far I think Denemo looks very promising for what I want from a
> notation program, but it'll take me a while to get through the
> tutorials, especially since I'm new to Lilypond as well.
> 
> Ludo
> 
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Richard Shann
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>         On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 19:57 +0100, Ludo Beckers wrote:
>         > I was able to place "edit chord" on the button bar, which is
>         a good
>         > start.
>         > For making keyboard shortcuts I'll have to study the manual
>         some more,
>         > but it's a relief to know this is possible :-)
>         >
>         > About the chord names; now I understand why in the manual
>         they refer
>         > to the Lilypond docs for this, because entering Bbmaj7
>         wouldn't work -
>         > it needs Lilypond syntax bes2:maj7 indeed (more to study).
>         >
>         > For getting rid of the "score: arranger" I had already tried
>         emptying
>         > the text-box, but it still remains in the button bar and in
>         Lilypond
>         > view.
>         
>         ???? what remains where??? I just tried blanking the arranger
>         name and
>         nothing but the music appeared in the PDF.
>         
>         >
>         > In File there's no templates.
>         
>         Is the File menu truncated then? What is the last entry?
>         
>         > I do see open - open recent - open example.
>         > When I choose open example, and then in the choice window I
>         go up a
>         > directory to Denemo, I do see a folder with 6 templates in
>         there.
>         >
>         > Testing?? You mean 8.22 is an alfa or beta release?
>         
>         Yes Nils calls it beta. It is our best release so far of the
>         Denemo
>         program. But there are lots of things still to do, though it
>         is capable
>         of doing a lot more than many other such programs, perhaps
>         all.
>         
>         Richard
>         
>         
>         
>         > Oops - had I known, I would have chosen a stable release.
>         >
>         > Thanks for your help,
>         > Ludo
>         >
>         >
>         > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Richard Shann
>         > <address@hidden> wrote:
>         >         On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:21 +0100, Ludo Beckers
>         wrote:
>         >         > So that'd be four clicks per chord?
>         chords->markings->chord
>         >         > symbols->edit chord symbols
>         >         > Surely there must be a faster way (I hope!)
>         >
>         >
>         >         yes, you create a keyboard shortcut and save it in
>         your
>         >         personal set of
>         >         keyboard shortcuts. You right click the command and
>         then
>         >         choose Edit
>         >         Shortcuts...
>         >         and in that dialog click either the One or Two key
>         shortcut
>         >         button and
>         >         then press the key you want to use. Then save as
>         Default
>         >         command set.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         >  because at about two chords per measure that'd be
>         quite
>         >         unpractical.
>         >         >
>         >         > There's something strange there also; when I enter
>         a chord
>         >         like that,
>         >         > then save the file and do CTRL-p (I use Evince as
>         >         PDF-reader) I get
>         >         > "unable to open document. text/plain is not
>         supported".
>         >
>         >         This means what you typed in the box is not good
>         syntax for
>         >         LilyPond,
>         >         and so LilyPond failed to generate the pdf.
>         >         I am not expert on the syntax for that stuff.
>         Jeremiah knows
>         >         more, it
>         >         is, I believe in the LilyPond manual. I just put the
>         single
>         >         letter c in
>         >         there and get a C major chord symbol. Beyond that I
>         don't know
>         >         the
>         >         syntax...
>         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Right click and choose delete doesn't make the
>         "score:
>         >         arranger"
>         >         > button go away.
>         >
>         >         hmm, it is doing it for me. Workaround - choose
>         Score->Titles
>         >         etc->Arranger and blank out the text
>         >
>         >         > When I open the Lilypond-view I still see it there
>         too.
>         >         >
>         >         > Another thing I found is that in the file menu
>         there's no
>         >         "start new
>         >         > score from template",
>         >
>         >         there should be
>         >         Open Template
>         >         Open Custom Template
>         >         Open Default Template
>         >
>         >         in the File menu. I put Ctrl-n as shortcut to Open
>         Default
>         >         Template
>         >         (having saved my favorite template under the name
>         Default).
>         >
>         >         > even though I have version 8.22 installed.
>         >         >
>         >         > Sorry to expand my originally simple question like
>         this.
>         >
>         >         Thank you for the testing :)
>         >
>         >         Richard
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         > Ludo
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Richard Shann
>         >         > <address@hidden> wrote:
>         >         >         On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 17:06 +0100, Ludo
>         Beckers
>         >         wrote:
>         >         >         > The very last page of denemo-manual
>         says: "To
>         >         enter chord
>         >         >         symbols
>         >         >         > choose Other->Insert/Enter chord
>         symbols."
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > I don't see this "Other"-menu anywhere.
>         >         >
>         >         >         Ancient bit of manual. Now Chords menu.
>         Chord
>         >         symbols are
>         >         >         under Markings
>         >         >         (as they are a sort of Mark that is put
>         above
>         >         notes/chords).
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         > Without chords I'm lost, since it's
>         mainly jazz
>         >         lead sheets
>         >         >         I work on.
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > A less grave thing is that I put a
>         "score:
>         >         arranger" in the
>         >         >         > lead-sheet, but I can't find how to
>         delete it.
>         >         >
>         >         >         You have a button saying Score: arranger I
>         guess? If
>         >         you left
>         >         >         click it
>         >         >         you can set the arranger text to be empty,
>         if you
>         >         right click
>         >         >         it you
>         >         >         should be get an advanced edit menu which
>         has a
>         >         Delete
>         >         >         Directive button.
>         >         >         (It should really have a better editing
>         interface
>         >         like some of
>         >         >         the
>         >         >         others, but no-one scripted it yet)
>         >         >
>         >         >         Richard
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >
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