Re: [Denemo-devel] Measure size and clefs in all measure

[Richard Shann]

On Sun, 2016-09-04 at 09:20 -0300, Marcelo Lima wrote:
> Hi Richard,
[...]
> 
> 1. There is no treble octava bassa (G clef) in Music Glyph. I am using
> a clue-clef instead to point to write the counterpoint exemples for my
> students. The problem is that the clue-clef stays behind the bar
> measure, while it would be ideal to write it in the respective
> measure. Is there a possibility to include the treble octava bassa in
> the Music Glyph options? Or to change the position of the clue-clef to
> put it into the respective measure (I don't need for now to have the
> clue-clef before the respective measure bar).

It seems that the ottava bassa clefs are composited out of the normal
clef and an italic "8", so I would do the same. Next to the clef insert
an "8" as markup using Directives->Markings->Text/Symbol->Multi-line
text and music.
It takes some experimentation to choose the right size and position, and
I notice that it's position is sometimes influence by the note that
follows, so you should fix that first. (*)

> I have downloaded the update you've talked about, and it really has
> very nice improvments. The problem is that I can't built it and put it
> in my Audio Production menu (Ubuntu Studio),

Is that to say you succeeded in building it but couldn't get Ubuntu to
add it to a menu?


>  and I can't replace the older version of Denemo for the new one. I
> have to launch it by Terminal using sudo bash

you should not (and should not need) to use sudo here. That command sudo
is to give elevated privileges to the program, which it neither needs
nor wants. Always consider the use of sudo as a grave step, to be done
only on good advice - it allows alterations to your system.

>  to do it. At least for me, this is not a good workflow option.
> 
> Is that a way to build it to put its icon in my Audio Production menu?

That question will have to be directed to Ubuntu users - there may be
some listening here who can advise you (feel free to email if so). I use
Debian myself.

Oh! and remember to use "Reply to All" otherwise the email doesn't go to
the mailing list and so no-one else can benefit from the advice given,
and you can't benefit from others chipping in to the conversation with
better ideas than I have.

Attached is an example I created of Ottava Bass treble clef

Richard

> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> 
> Bests
> 
> Marcelo
> 
> 
> Dr. Marcelo Carneiro
> Compositor, Pesquisador, Professor Adjunto do Departamento de
> Composição e Regência do IVL, UNIRIO
> Coordenador do Mestrado do PPGM
> Lattes
> http://buscatextual.cnpq.br/buscatextual/busca.do
> 
> http://marceloarcos2.wix.com/marcelocarneiro
> 
> 
> 2016-09-04 4:16 GMT-03:00 Richard Shann <address@hidden>:
>         
>         > Hi, I am new to Denemo and Lilypond. I am writing a
>         couterpoint
>         > exercise for a group of students but stucked in writing down
>         clefs in
>         > all measures and creating space for them. Someone at the
>         chat taught
>         > me how to write clefs in all measures using the Music Glypf
>         directive.
>         > He/She also explained to me that I needed to create space in
>         those
>         > measures for those new clefs, using some Horizontal Space
>         command or
>         > tool. I don't know how to create those Horizontal Spaces,
>         and there
>         > are no informations about it on the Manual.
>         >
>         Strangely, your message has not yet arrived on the mailing
>         list archive.
>         As I promised on irc chat #denemo I posted an example and some
>         details
>         on this list yesterday:
>         see
>         http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/denemo-devel/2016-09/index.html
>         
>         under the subject  "Inserting clefs arbitrarily". In brief you
>         use
>         Notes/Rests->Displace Horizontally
>         to move the first note in the bar and make space for the Clef
>         glyph.
>         
>         >
>         > I am using Denemo 2.0.2 on Ubuntu Studio 16.04.
>         >
>         This is 4 releases ago, many improvements since then. There is
>         a version
>         built every night which does not require sudo to use, you just
>         download
>         it to any directory in your home directory, unpack it and
>         launch it with
>         the provided script Launch_Denemo.sh (or some such!).
>         This version is:
>         
>         
> http://www.denemo.org/~jjbenham/gub/uploads/denemo-0.0.0-0.linux-x86.tar.xz
>         
>         As I write it is still dated 3rd Sept 2016, so not updated yet
>         for
>         today. When it is you will have the fix for dragging the clef
>         glyph into
>         the space you have created. With older versions there was a
>         bug which
>         meant you only got one chance to drag the clef to the correct
>         position
>         in the Print View - after that it was failing to take into
>         account that
>         it was already moved.
>         I must thank you for alerting me to this bug!
>         
>         Once you have got an example clef and displacement you can
>         copy and
>         paste to other bars (you could even copy and paste from the
>         attached
>         score).
>         
>         Please ask if you need further help,
>         
>         Richard
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
> 
> 
> 
> 
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