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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Using the MIMO port for serial comm. to a Virtex5


From: Matt Ettus
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Using the MIMO port for serial comm. to a Virtex5 board
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:04:37 -0800
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That's probably ok. I haven't ever used one of the breakout cables to connect to a SATA connector, but it sounds like SATA cables don't have the built in crossover like the SAS ones do.

Matt


On 12/07/2009 11:57 AM, Charles Irick wrote:
Thank you for the fast reply. It looks like I need the SATA fanout
connectors to be the host in this case because pin 2-3 are TX for the
SATA port. Would there be any issue having the mini-SAS as the target?
(part: iSAS-7P88-U)

Charles

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Matt Ettus<address@hidden>  wrote:
On 12/07/2009 11:17 AM, Charles Irick wrote:

Hello,
I am narrowing down my issues and I think my problem is related to
physically connecting the USRP2 to the V5 and it being a host to host
connection. (I think I have Tx connected to Tx and Rx to Rx) For
verification, are the A1-A13 pins on top or the B1-B13 pins for the
mini-SAS port? (
http://gnuradio.org/trac/attachment/wiki/USRP2Schem/expansion.pdf ) My
guess is that the B1-B13 pins are at the top with B1 being in the top
left corner if you are looking at the port on the front of the USRP2.


All outputs are on B, which is on top.


Also, when using two USRP2s you should have this same host to host
issue, is this resolved because the mimo cable is a crossover? Thanks
in advance for any help.

All SAS cables are what you would call crossover.  A on one side connects to
B on the other.  Wiring diagrams are here:

http://www.cs-electronics.com/isas-cables-NEW.htm




Charles

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Matt Ettus<address@hidden>    wrote:

On 12/01/2009 12:58 PM, Charles Irick wrote:

Hello,
I'm most likely having a clock issue because I cannot get any data
transfers going between the USRP2 and GTPs on the V5. A few questions:

- I'm not quite sure I understand the 10MHz reference clock idea, or
its usage; I looked through the HDL and everything on the FPGA is
running at 100MHz.

The 10 MHz reference input on the front is optional.  If you connect it
and
enable locking, the 100 MHz main oscillator will lock to it, otherwise it
will free run.  Everything inside the FPGA runs at 100 MHz (DSP) or 50
MHz
(processor).

There is also a 10 MHz reference clock sent out on the MIMO connector.
When
turned on, it will be the 100 MHz clock divided down by 10.

- I assume I will not need to provide this reference clock if the
USRP2 is the driver given that sd_gentest appears to do so in the main
functions clocks_mimo_config. Either way I'm using the SAS to quad
SATA cable so the clock isn't even transferred to the GTPs (literally,
it's supposed to derive it from the data).

sd_gentest will generate packets and send them on the serdes on the MIMO
cable.  You should be able to receive it without using the 10 MHz
reference
clock because, as you say, the clock is recovered from the data.

- My only clocking options on the GTP's are 150 or 75MHz. I'm not sure
if I should clock the USRP2's FPGA or the reference differently to
match this.


The important thing is that you get the GTPs set up for the correct data
rate.  On the USRP2, the main clock to the SERDES chip is 100 MHz.  2
Bytes
are sent on each clock, so the effective data rate is 1.6 Gbps. However,
since 8b-10b coding is used, the on the wire bit rate is 2.0 Gbps
(20*100MHz).  So whatever reference clock you use, you need the GTP to be
working at 2 Gbps.  I am by no means an expert on the GTPs, but I think
the
easiest way to do this is to have a reference clock of 100 MHz.

You could probably use the PLLs in the V5 to create a 100 MHz reference
clock from one of your other clock rates.

Matt








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