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Re: Some thoughts about GS

From: Marco Scheurer
Subject: Re: Some thoughts about GS
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:34:55 +0100

A while ago I wrote:

> I think that GNUstep could pick up what Apple let down:  
> development. I'm definitely not a fan of Windows, but the  
possibility of
> recompiling your apps on Windows (and have them look like Windows  
> could be a "killer feature", something likely to attract developers. 

I haven't seen much feedback on this one, except that it was now  
possible to build Gnome and KDE Windows applications. Doesn't this  
make it even more important?

> About the barrier of Objective C. As much as I like Objective C  
(and I
> like it a lot!) I have to agree with those who do not like to be  
forced to
> use one language or another. After all, I hate being forced to use  
Java. It
> would be nice if GNUstep could attain some kind of language  
neutrality, or
> offer bindings for Java, Smalltalk, LISP, Python... Something like  
> promises made by .NET / C# .

Of course there were many answers about the merits of Objective C (I  
don't have to be convinced). I also almost agree with those who say,  
in essence: "screw them if they're too dumb to try something  
different". But the question was: how to get a greater GNUSTEP  
following among developers.

Many references were made to the fact that Guile, Smalltalk can be  
used as some kind of scripting languages for GNUSTEP. That's nice,  
but that's not exactly what I had in mind. Could I use a Smalltalk or  
Java object as a NSBrowser delegate? I know this is probably way too  
ambitious, a reminder our brief 'universal runtime' OREO encounter.

> Last, we could ask ourselves if some of the moves made by Apple  
would not
> be appropriate for GNUstep as well. I'm thinking about  
CoreFoundation and
> CoreGraphics and dropping DPS...

Yes, DPS is very nice. However, if having Mac OS X application  
developers port their apps is a goal, I think it makes sense to be as  
compatible as possible in that area.

Marco Scheurer
Sen:te, Lausanne, Switzerland         http://www.sente.ch

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