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Re: Possible future Gorm name change

From: Richard Fillion
Subject: Re: Possible future Gorm name change
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:05:36 -0600

A GIMP is nothing, but a Gimp is someone who is lacking some physical ability, usually due to an injury. Telling someone "I'm using The GIMP" is kind of humorous.

Richard Fillion

On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote:


--- Richard Fillion <address@hidden> wrote:

Nice story, much respect to anyone who knows shit like that.

Unfortunately this is EXACTLY what's wrong with Gorm (or is it GORM
cause it's an acronym?) as a name.

It's usually written "Gorm", but it is an acronym for GNUstep Object
Relationship Modeller.

"Bluetooth" _is_ a cool name.
Why?  Cause it's just a technology, and like ports on the back of
computers, it needs a name to distinguish it from other
technologies.  It's catchy, and there are only a few big computer
technologies for users to remember.  Bluetooth, Firewire, DVI, USB,

Saying "Gorm is fine cause Bluetooth has been successful as a name"
or even "GIMP" like was previously mentioned isn't doing yourselves a

GNUstep is _really_ freaking cool (I'm neutral about the name, I mean
the project).  You guys are in denial of two things though : A) Looks
matter, and B) Names matter.  I'm not even going to go into A) as
it's been argued to death.  Lets just look at names here.

I don't think anyone is in denial about looks anymore. Also, since I posed the
question, I don't think we're in denial about names either.

ProjectCenter : Beautiful name, gives you an idea of what this is.
You're managing some type of project with it.

Gorm, or should I say GNUstep Object Relationship Modeler.  I know
that acronyms are big in FOSS land, but honestly, this is an
abortion.  "GIMP" at least sounds funny.  A gorm, wtf is a gorm?

WTF is a GIMP?

Sure it does more than building interfaces, but its main purpose,
what makes people want to begin using it, is designing GUIs for
GNUstep applications.  Heck even "Relation Modeler" would be a step
up if you ask me.  Interface Creator, anything really would be better
than Gorm.

Thanks for your input, I'll take it under consideration.

Next up: *switches keyboard languages* Étoilé.  I'm french, and that
may technically be a word, but somehow I doubt that the people who
this is aimed towards are all french.  How is this pronounced in

Just the same as it is in French. :)

I'm pretty hard on the #gnustep people about both looks and names.
There's a reason for this.  I hold you guys to a higher standard than
I do GNOME and KDE stuff.  Why?  Cause there's already an amazingly
slick OpenStep implementation out there : Cocoa.  To me, GNUstep
isn't competing with GNOME and KDE, but with OS X.  Being open source
only buys you so much credit. The rest you have to earn legitimately.

I'm gonna get roasted both on the ML and #gnustep, but that's fine.
It needed to be said, and since this thread started the day after I
got chewed out for saying "Steve Jobs would shoot himself in the face
before supporting an app with a name like Gorm", I feel somewhat

You shouldn't.  This has been turning over in my head for a while.

Richard Fillion


Gregory John Casamento
-- Principal Consultant, Open Logic Corp. (A MD Corp.)
## Maintainer of Gorm (IB Equiv.) for GNUstep.

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